Stocks go down?

Pls bring the bull back :(

I don’t have much money in the game compared to some of the guys on this sub but I had about $17,000 invested in companies like Microsoft, apple, enbridge, S&P500, Intel, and Nvidia. The day before trump was supposed to put out his tariffs I decided the market wasn’t exactly growing enough for me to justify holding as I was losing more on my gains than gaining if that makes sense. I sold on a whim thinking maybe I’ll buy back in when the market is more stable but man did I make the right call I can’t believe what I’m seeing before my eyes in real time. Since I’ve sold I’ve seen a year of progress be whipped out from the market it’s unbelievable.

Just wondering what everyone else’s thoughts are on the whole situation and if anyone else is mass selling.

Just like Mr. Krabs I like Money. With each USA president change I have to figure out what to short, what to invest in. Green energy or Gas and Oil. This seems to be more like a political site. I don’t see a focus on making money here.

This is what I am doing to make money: When the Tariffs started I started shorting. I have always had Crypto. I was an early investor in Crypto. I am heavy into USA crypto now.
I feel that we will have a response of lower interest rates in the next 6-12 months so it’s a good time to start getting down payments in place and getting pre approved for another investment property.

What is your current focus on making money?

Back-of-the-Napkin Economics (Yeah, cue the eye roll from your first-year calc prof 😅)

 Let’s break this down. 

Imagine a 25% tariff slapped across the board. Consumers don’t suddenly have 25% more money, so demand drops. Corporate sales? Down 25%. Earnings? Also down 25%.

 Now let’s bring in some context. 

Ignore post-2008 P/E ratios (thanks, money printing). From 1971 to 2007, the average S&P 500 P/E ratio was ~19.4. Today? It’s sitting at ~25. 

Now apply that 25% earnings drop and a reversion to historical valuation norms, and boom — you get a potential 42% drop in the S&P from current levels. That’s just basic math. Regression to the mean. 

But here's where it gets spicy: the intangibles. 

• Crumbling consumer confidence
•  Rising unemployment 
• Derivative exposure exceeding 2007 levels 
• Investment firms leveraged 100:1 
• Commercial real estate on life support 

So… are we cooked? Actually, we’re burnt to a crisp.

Remember 2008? The TARP bailout shifted private risk onto public debt. That playbook's being dusted off again — only this time, the scale’s bigger. The debt tied to risk assets is becoming unsustainable, and a massive financial reset seems inevitable. When it comes, expect another TARP — only this time, it’s gonna be a doozy. The game is the same: protect the top.

 Here’s the ugly truth:

Those living paycheck to paycheck can’t afford to play the long game. Those with a few bucks in the bank are going to see those reserves used up to survive and move into survival mode. People's future-focused decisions will be shelved just to get through the week. Meanwhile, the wealthy sit on reserves, wait for the crash, and scoop up assets at fire-sale prices. The majority get crushed under liabilities, unable to participate in the rebound.

 The pie gets smaller — but the slice for the top grows bigger.

 Thus, even if tariffs vanished tomorrow, the trust in global trade is broken. That damage is done. The U.S. economy will likely contract significantly — and stay smaller. But rest assured: those at the top will come out of it with more control, more wealth, and a bigger piece of what's left.

 Same playbook. Same outcome. Every time.

Say thank you.

—• “You can't argue with your grandfather.”

Where do we think the bottom is?

I give up because it’s hopeless. I am going to countdown to the new president. Just 1386 left…

I saw today where California, the worlds fifth largest economy, is saying it will negotiate it's own non tariff trade deals with other countries and by pass DC completely. That would also mean that Canada for instance would have a no tariff deal, so all Canadian's could and would increase tourism to California but no other states. All the Canadian's who went to FL for vacations would now go to CA. Canada would also keep importing all CA products and CA would import goods from Canada as usual. CA could also do this with Mexico. I guess once Maine sees this they will also be doing it. Can a State over ride Tariffs?

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414

His love for Russia and Putin, his desire to end free markets and trade and his goal of raising taxes higher than anyone in our lifetime. Long live the Republic of America!!!

Do you think jobs will come back to the US ( now ROA). It took decades of gutting trades, unions, electrical infrastructure… we are not capable. They don’t have a clue of how much retraining and hard infrastructure that needs to be built. If they did they would have phased in the tariffs over 5 to 7 years.

That one-liner says everything we all already expected. He’s not walking anything back (at least not anytime soon), and escalation is the stance. Over the weekend, I’m watching for formal retaliation headlines from Asia (China already responded), the EU, India, and other countries. Any of them firing back moves 1 step closer to a long-term recession. I’m also tracking SOXL and SOXQ (and their inverse LEFTs) closely, semis are now the eye of the storm. Yield curve shifts and Treasury volatility could signal institutional positioning. And Jerome Powell speaking today did not help calm nerves at all. That likely means that he's letting this volatility run its course. Monday will most likely open up as it did today and yesterday.

It's not about reshoring jobs, it's about free global trade so Global Conglomerates and US entities can flood the world with there products and services.

The tarrifs will help every country pay down their national debts off the backs of it's citizen consumers in the short term (12-36 minths).

The perceived uncertainty helps drop equities and in turn interest rates allowing countries to refi their debts and companies to buy back stock cheap.

Finally once countries agree to free trade to remove these tarrifs increased competition from the USA and the first movers/most nimble organizations will control the global market share and in turn lead to lowers prices for everyone.

Bottom line...buy US equities in consumer goods, agriculture, food etc