r/abanpreach • u/PdiddyCAMEnME • 18d ago
Discussion Ugh. He’s trying to bring us back in time
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u/Satanicjamnik 18d ago
That is the " Again" part in the " Make America Great" though. At least as far as the voters and administration is concerned.
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u/Cream06 18d ago
Its not going to turn out the way they think it will. They can refuse service just for a person Spencer money somewhere else?
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u/Satanicjamnik 18d ago
Like they give a fuck. The subsequent division is the aim. They want to run the country like inmates run themselves in Californian prison system. You sit with your own. You eat with your own. A little hit on the pocket to some independent businesses be damned.
They will spin it as a business being " non - woke" or anti "DEI restrooms" or being down with " protecting women" or something. Matt Walsh, Tim Pool and Dave Rubin will give it a shout out online. Alex Jones will defend it with a megaphone. Job done.
They are all for Gerrymandering, gated communities and all that anyway. You forget that one of their little golden boys was born in the country that gave us apartheid.
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u/Cream06 17d ago
Its all fun and games until " no whites allowed or no men " signs come up .
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u/Satanicjamnik 17d ago
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u/AGuyWithTwoThighs 17d ago
It's amazing to me how in denial these people are about the Irish racism that existed. They're so uneducated they don't even remember how racist their racist ancestors were
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u/Satanicjamnik 17d ago
Absolutely. It wasn't too long ago that Irish people and Italains weren't even considered white either.
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u/AGuyWithTwoThighs 17d ago
Yup. Even my Italian grandmother, a first generation immigrant who eventually ran an Italian deli where the whole family had to pitch in to make ends meet, doesn't remember any racism towards her. Maybe she got lucky with her experiences, but she also forgets how she and my grandfather used old-school discipline to raise the kids. She remembers it all through rose tinted glasses
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u/Comprehensive_Eye805 18d ago
People will just read the misleading title and post about it 😂 its what they want
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u/MooseLoot 17d ago
Nice rage bait. They removed redundant language from contracts- this is still covered by law. No contractors not anybody else can have segregation in this country by law. Contracts cannot supersede law, so even if they specifically said that it was okay in contracts (they do not), it would still be banned.
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u/Angela_Landsbury 17d ago
If it's redundant why waste time on it at all?
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u/MooseLoot 17d ago
Despite having worked on contracts professionally, I am not a government contract historian, so I don’t know precisely why. Possibilities include: 1) this could have been in contracts before everything was desegregated 2) this could have been there in case segregation became legal again- the contracts would still prevent it 3) it could just be a nod that somebody lobbied for inclusion.
Probably other possibilities as well, but my money is on #3
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u/Objective_Focus_5614 18d ago
That not what the article states or the clause.
https://www.acquisition.gov/far/52.222-21
Not that i really care like that but the post is very misleading. Please re-read the article. So from my understanding this was done to combat DEI and ties into the separate facilities for the sectors of our community who may want them. i.e. transgender restrooms
Even the picture doesn’t really add up. Please correct me if i have missed anything.
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u/Ebonhand69 18d ago
I'm not sure, I tried following the link on LGBT, and it doesn't lead to that document. So I'm curious what you found.
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u/Objective_Focus_5614 18d ago
So my assumption is that this administration has a focus for dismantling any DEI initiatives. They tend to roll up DEI and use it as a broad banner to remove any privileges for minorities. When you read the link provided you'll see the focus is on banning the process of providing facilities among other things to groups that may require it. Hence the link to transgender restrooms.
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u/No_Consequence_6775 18d ago
Why do I feel like there's information missing from this? They literally just came down on the universities for doing that. The universities were creating bullshit safe spaces which were just race segregation.
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u/Professional_Size_62 17d ago
What you're missing is that nothing changes... the civil rights act is still in-place. The EO only removes the requirement for contractors to confirm they wont do something that is already illegal.
When it was first put in place, i believe it was technically legal to segregate but now that it isn't, the requirement was a useless additional bureaucratic step that has now been removed
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u/No_Consequence_6775 17d ago
Yes after commenting I read up on it. Definitely a dishonest presentation since those protections still exist.
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u/sweetnectarlvr 17d ago
The click bait is crazy...or the op is intentionally lying
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u/hmcg020 17d ago
Meanwhile Trevor Noah and some black professors where saying desegregation was a massive mistake.
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u/jackrabbit323 17d ago
Racism aside, what money does this save the government? How is this more efficient?
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u/bearssuperfan 17d ago
Instead of having 4 nice toilets for everyone, they can build two nice toilets for whites and dig two latrines for the “others”
I wanna /s but I really can’t think of a better example
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u/Thick_Explanation_98 17d ago
Why would that peckerwood hold a sign on firing black workers when we all know he would never hire any?
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17d ago
we need to stop censoring the N word when a maga says it (or in historical images). Don't soften the choice they made. rub it in the face of anyone who thinks we aren't dealing with nazis.
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u/SomxICare 15d ago
Remember we can be segregated but it’s has to be with equality and they can’t burn down our shit this time
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u/oflowz 18d ago edited 18d ago
This mentality never left. Black people have always known this.
People like to pretend this is ancient history. Both of my parents were adults in the 1950s. I'm 55 my older sister was born in 1965. My paternal grandparents both passed before the Civil Acts did.
Just like one of my parents is still alive, theres white people from these pictures still alive too. Changing the law didnt change their beliefs.
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u/Kenan_as_SteveHarvey 18d ago
Shit, neither of my grandmothers weren’t allowed to be born in hospitals and they’re both still alive. They’re whole education was segregated
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u/Successful_panhandlr 18d ago
I had a friend growing up, his grandpa was a white person and his grandma was an African American. Their family heirloom was the whip that was used on his grandma's parents. Their grandpa was the one who ended the segregation in the family. Not far away there's people his age that believed it never should've ended.
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u/paniczonepodcast 17d ago
I literally just watched a video yesterday of a black woman advocating for segregation so I mean.....
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u/Gobal_Outcast02 18d ago
Wow, now watch this have zero effect on anything today
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u/UntilYouWerent 18d ago
Me when I am a cis white man who will never feel the consequences of my actions
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u/PHDclapper 18d ago
This is the lowest quality bait ever, dont engage with it, trump is trying to get people raging and mad.
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u/AdmirableFigg 17d ago
Isn’t this what you all wanted? I’ve seen a bunch of people advocating for segregation.. a lot of them were black
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u/Demon12349 17d ago
Yeah I've seen [online] people stating they want to have Blacks only places to have them as safe spaces etc. It's just segregation with extra steps
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u/Maditen 17d ago
Segregation and Separation are not the same thing.
Segregation is being told where you can go.
Separation is going where ever you want to go, while removing yourself from a group.
I’ve seen people advocate for separation but not segregation.
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u/Oakislife 17d ago
The “separation” you’ve seen people advocating for, includes not letting others in, that’s still segregation.
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u/Slow-Dependent9741 18d ago
Canadian here. What does this mean for the US? As per this Reuters article segregation remains illegal but this is seen as a very symbolic action according to civil rights attorney Ben Crump.
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u/Professional_Size_62 17d ago
I think the reactions are mainly meant to stir up resentment and contempt towards the current administration.
I increasingly find that media and public personalities will take any advantage to do this, whether it is accurate or not, which i find very depressing and counterproductive.
you you want to properly foster these negative opinions, you should ignore stuff that is inaccurate and focus on the stuff that is, otherwise you just risk disengaging your audience or even having an opposite effect of driving people to support him like some kind of underdog/martyr.
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u/etherealtaroo 18d ago
It means nothing as it changes nothing. OP is just posting clickbait that redditors will fall for because they hate Trump.
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u/Puzzled_ShitPan 17d ago
I'm pretty sure I just watched a trans person kick someone out his bar for wearing a red hat, no other reason but the hat, and then Reddit backed him like it was okay. So it's not like the left hadn't already pushed for this. I mean, personally, I don't agree with this segregation bullshit, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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u/RedditIsFascistShit4 17d ago
Even if this is true, who cares? Why force people to interact, those who want segregation can enjoy it. And a good chance for black people show how good their culture is and make white people want to go to the all black establishments.
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u/dpot007 18d ago
Quick question, do you guys feel like these laws are still needed? I think most people will agree if any business goes back to being a white only business, there will be hell to pay.
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u/PdiddyCAMEnME 18d ago
These laws are needed. Because there are people out there who are just like Trump. They may lie, cheat and string you along. They’ll find a way to turn the whole world upside down.
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u/grandfleetmember56 18d ago
So the laws are still there.
This was a directive that said "hey you can't segregate". That directive and language in paperwork is gone... But the laws preventing segregation are still in effect.
It's not a good look by any stretch of the imagination.... But it's not as bad as the article title makes it
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u/Grand-Foundation-535 18d ago
As a black gay man, these laws are definitely still needed!
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u/AGuyWithTwoThighs 17d ago
Ohhh, so THAT'S the mythological "golden age" of America they keep talking about.
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u/Physical-Bandicoot-4 17d ago
The American Independent party still exists, so this doesn't surprise me not one but.
There's gonna be a turning point, some day.
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u/Public_Cycle9475 17d ago
Such a bait, leftists are grabbing at straws to find something to be upset about.
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u/BuyBB_AMC_PLTR 17d ago
I guess it’s only ok when you have only black dorms, black graduations, black scholarships. Haven’t seen a single crybabies post when it was going on for a while
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u/Money_Distribution89 17d ago
Progressives have been doing this in schools for years lol
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/american-colleges-segregated-housing-graduation-ceremonies/
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u/DeliciousInterview91 17d ago
There's no good reason to do this other than to send a message to his base and to those of us for whom segregation ends poorly.
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u/Zestyclose_Habit2713 17d ago
I don't think this is repealing the civil rights act of 1964 because Congress needs to do that.
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u/Good-Recognition-811 17d ago
This is just part of Republican agenda to ensure that Americans never have to look at any mention of class protection in documents—because all it does is foster division and hatred; as part of their r***rded vibes-based social theory.
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u/Chance-Ad-1775 17d ago
If any “party” wants segregation that would be the left.
https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/harvard_prepares_to_host_all_black_graduation
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u/potentatewags 17d ago
I don't get the problem. Didn't a lot of left wing people try calling for segregation multiple times the last few years? Sounds like he didn't go far enough in that case for them. 🤷🏻
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u/Bordertown_Blades 17d ago
Didn’t anybody read the article? It’s still illegal and it was redundant. Be anti trump, hate the changes but be honest about the changes.
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u/Objective_Focus_5614 17d ago
You serious man? Reading is fundamental. An additional bathroom would be sectioned off for trans restrooms. Do you live under a rock?
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u/Odd-Negotiation2779 17d ago
segregation might be a better idea than force feeding people to try to mesh when there’s no middle ground anymore since BLM. This movement caused more destruction than good and makes everyone apathetic and combative alone everyone ends up segregated anyway
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u/Playful-Present-374 17d ago
There are lots of antiquated, useless regs on the books. This isn't the only one that needs to be culled
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u/skennedy505 17d ago
"Segregation is still illegal in the U.S. and the memo states contractors are still subject to laws on civil rights and nondiscrimination."
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17d ago
I mean this is a good thing right? Now we can have those black only and white only dorms everyone wants.
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u/JerseyRich1 17d ago
These idiots actually believe Trumps bringing back segregated water fountains. TDS is a serious condition.
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u/Ssuuddssyy 17d ago
My god this is autism in full display. Segregation is federally outlawed. They literally just simplified the law….
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u/MrSkaloskavic 17d ago
Have it purposely backfire and make it so that the white spaces are the shitty ones.
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u/rveach2004 17d ago
We currently have black colleges, black fraternities, black sororities, black graduations, a black caucus on and on and on.
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids 17d ago
they've been saying they were going to "turn back the clock" since Obama was President and that's what they've been doing. 🤷🏾♀️
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u/DaikonNoKami 17d ago
Is he going to also bring us back in time when cost of living and housing was affordable? Where CEOS only made like at most 20x other workers?
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u/stevenglansberg2024 17d ago
And this is exactly why he’s the president this shit is fucking retarded there’s plenty of stuff to go after him for that’s not a pathetic twisted attempt to make him look like the devil the small amount of dumb people who these work on isn’t a fan of him anyway
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u/globulator 17d ago
Didn't the Dems basically worship a dude that said the only way to fight past racism is with racism today? Don't the Dems support "POC centered areas"? Black only college dorms? Racism seminars at major conglomerates that separate the employees into groups based on skin color? Didn't you guys want to make an unlikable shrew president just because she was a black woman because you didn't think there would ever be a black female candidate without skipping the primary and just installing her as the candidate? Aren't the Dems the ones that want us to bring foreign Hispanic people to do menial, low status jobs because no one else will do them? Don't the Dems believe that black and brown people need an extra push in order to succeed in school and in the job market because without them being the white knights, there would be a disparity in success and achievement?
Pretty sure we don't have to go back in time. The Dems have always been the party of racial intolerance and perceived moral superiority despite complete ethical bankruptcy, and they continue to be. It's a timeless tradition.
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u/Rockspeaker 17d ago
Weren't they trying to say this was the answer a few years ago, when that blm stuff was popular?
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u/Subtly_Cynical 17d ago
To be fair, a lot of people practice self segregation. Back in 2007, going through BCT we had soldiers that would set away from the white ones. A drill took note of it and called them out on it and started separating everyone by race, sex, eye color, etc to point out the hypocrisy. The drill wasn't white, either.
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u/Jhernandez1328 17d ago
Let's see. Inflation through the roof, high prices for everything, we were basically the laughing stock of every nation because of his weakness with foreign policy. The war in Ukraine was "mishandled" by him because of his business dealings in United (Burisma). His staff was the worst. From his cabinet, his Whitehouse press secretary, all of them, celebrating all these trannies in school, the pronoun mafia, I mean, I can go on and on about the Biden disastrous presidency.
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u/Classic_Dill 17d ago
But the Trump, that was when America was great! You know when it was basically white people in power. We’re in so much trouble. Everybody, if we don’t get together this summer and crash the gates with millions of people in protest I’m not sure we’re gonna get the country back, I’ll say this to you, this country will never ever be the same again, a huge shift has happened, and even though I think eventually it’ll get better, this country will never ever be the same again.
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u/JTSpirit36 17d ago
Lifting the ban will allow certain business owners to show their true colors and we will know who to not do business with.
Others will assume the default position of not changing operations even with the ban lifted.
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u/Zealousideal_Ad_3425 17d ago
The only people these days trying to segregate everything are on the left. You're a bunch of overreacting children.
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u/smashmouthfun 17d ago
He said he wanted the "good ole days" which was 1897-1901 when McKinley capitulated to the robber barons.
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u/Fickle-Expression-97 17d ago
I haven’t heard anything from republicans against it has anyone else??
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u/Thereisnopainkiller 17d ago
What do you mean “TRYING”?? We’re 8 years into this already. Its about time the 2nd amendment people step in. Stop staying so quiet and timid! Say what is true! These fascist thugs are terrorists and enemies of the american people and need to be put down.
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u/Sufficient-Arm-4840 17d ago
The south still segregated. It’s only certain cities where you see integration. And the integrated cities is only cause of finances after work everybody still goes to there side of town.
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u/TheVenerableBede 17d ago
This is their idea of “making America great again.” But remember—Donald has done the most for POC apart from “maybe Lincoln.”
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u/TopDawg-74 17d ago
The very reason why the constitution is a piece of 💩it was written by racist for racist and then amended
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u/SammieDidi 17d ago
The scary thing is, history never really repeats. So the future can be so much worse.
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u/JabbooJamboree 17d ago
It's likely been removed because it is only an administrative overhead for a contractor to prove. It is not a current practice in US, so not productive to prove compliance. There is also redundancy with other statues.
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u/ParticularRough6225 17d ago
When they said make America great again, this is when it was first great to them.
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u/Texastony2 17d ago
What do you expect from someone who probably never really worked a day in his life?
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u/Mobydick8524 17d ago
The only people who segregate are blacks. HBCUs ,BET , black men or black women only dating mentality, black entertainment awards etc etc.
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u/Thefleasknees86 16d ago
Likely because it's already federally illegally and is a pointless and redundant regulation
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u/runningwater415 16d ago
USA today is nothing but left wing propaganda. Be highly skeptical of anything they say. This headline is click bait and completely misleading..
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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng 16d ago
Weren’t people all for it when black students wanted all black dorms and eating areas?
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u/RalNCSwM 16d ago edited 5d ago
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u/Ok-Yesterday2001 16d ago
This is blatantly untrue. This isnt even planted with a seed of truth, this is just a flat out fucking lie. I'm not some super MAGA kinda guy, but this is just a completely fabricated headline. It doesn't even come close to resembling the truth.
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u/HistorianSignal945 16d ago
Back when sitcoms could have one black couple or sidekick per episode but not both.
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u/Hellnoway111 16d ago
You people. If anyone ever has to wonder why Democrats lost in 2024 and will definitely lose again in 2028. Just go to any political post on reditt. Yall make up some of the most astounding bullshit I've ever seen. Funny thing is, you mental cases believe it too. Just keep doind DEM things, 2028 will be easier than 2024.
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u/King_Nephilim82 16d ago
At the end of the day, all presidents are puppets. Who would benefit financially from this? Who are his donors? The paper trails are like strings to the puppet. Trump won't make a huge impact domestically because he's to busy whoring for israel. Inflation will still be raised as plans for war with Iran move forward.
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u/Known-Teacher4543 16d ago
They’d defend the shit out of this too “why not let businesses make their own decisions?”
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u/Advanced-Original281 16d ago
Ugh… these posts are absolutely untrue. It’s just you and your people trying to divide.
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u/Ok-Respect-8505 16d ago
Even if true, are we not at the point where that doesn't even need to be said? Of course we aren't gonna go back to segregated rooms, lmfao
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u/FindingMindless8552 16d ago
Don’t worry, there’s plenty of laws already covering this. Maybe read before you start crying over clickbait headlines.
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u/plopthickens 16d ago
Honestly, I don't think it should be against the law for for a business to segregate. Think about it this way.It should be that it is a self correcting problem. A business starts to segregate, a lot of people stop going to that business. At least in theory, that's how it should work. Because if you think about it, do you really want to give your money to a business, that's secretly to is willing to be super Racist and segregate people? I would rather businesses out to themselves and then fall due to their own stupidity.
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u/mindyodamnbzness 16d ago
I thinknhe is trying to get black folks to protest so he can have marshal law and use pew pew on us. That's why we ain't taking the bait.
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u/ClarkKent2o6 16d ago
No. He's trying to bait Black people into protesting so he can invoke the Insurrection Act and declare marital law.
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u/Clear_Background1582 16d ago
Now we'll know what places to avoid. No customers means they will go out of business. Vote with your wallets people.
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u/warghdawg02 15d ago
Got a link to the actual executive order so that people can read it for themselves, or are we just regurgitating political talking points and grossly exaggerated claims?
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u/Jumpy_Engineering377 15d ago
MAGA is a white supremacist movement, the reason why people still refuse to call it that is because most Americans know a family member who is a trump voter. They might call them stupid, but they hate to call their family member a bigot. A racist. A white supremacist.
The reality is that is EXACTLY what a trump voter is and now everyone is starting to realize that for real!
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u/russ_nas-t 15d ago
More rage bait on Reddit what a surprise. I’m deleting this godsforasken app, you all don’t do any research yourselves, take titles like this and run with it to fit your narrative. Grow up, Trumps not a Nazi and Biden wasn’t senile.
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u/CowGal-OrkLover 15d ago
I think its just the removal of a law that doesn’t apply anymore. Like how it’s illegal for Horses to eat fire hydrants in Wisconsin or something like that, or how it’s illegal for people to carry pliers in your back pocket in Texas. These are just laws that had a purpose at once, but now they are just wasting time.
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u/El-Fillo 15d ago
Democrats have already started achieving the segregation they failed to keep on the sixties, this isn’t needed.
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u/SweetQuality3542 15d ago
This is not the 60's so I doubt if shit like this follows through. If the shadow people can divide the people they can control the people. As long as everyone is mingling together, they can't control them. Divided we fall... This is a new era and all this trying to start race wars is pretty much old. You may see a few among a few idiots arguing with each other and come to blows or whatnot. It's all about control, just don't fall for it. Americans are fighting each other while the super wealthy sit back and laugh at us. It's not worth it.
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u/ConclusionSubject843 15d ago
I don’t see anything on WhiteHouse.gov
Other than “Removing Discrimination and Discriminatory Equity Ideology From the Foreign Service
The White House March 19, 2025”
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u/214speaking 18d ago
Source?