r/agedlikemilk 20h ago

Curdled.

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u/OregonHusky22 19h ago

Trump 2.0 doesn’t have John Kelly, doesn’t have Steve Manuchin, doesn’t have any of the Jared and Ivanka faction. None of those guardrails are there, just yes men.

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u/Mattie_Doo 18h ago

Right. We didn’t make a big enough deal out of the fact that so many of Trump’s staffers from the first administration were either discarded or turned on him. That’s very telling. Now he is surrounded by Yes Men and sycophants

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u/Open__Face 17h ago

After seeing what he did to Pence on Jan 6 no one sane would risk working for him

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u/lazy_rage 16h ago

More than Jan 6th, they are just better prepared now. Trump 1.0 wasn’t prepared to make all the changes they wanted to do. Trump 2.0 came with a complete step by step game plan to dismantle everything very quickly and without any opposition. John Oliver explained it in detail.

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u/usedtodreddit 15h ago edited 14h ago

Trump 2.0 also came with blanket immunity from prosecution for disregarding the law and any court orders he doesn't like provided to him by the US Supreme Court.

John Roberts' belief in 'Unitary Executive Theory', a holdover core belief he's held since he was a Council for Reagan whom he advised during Iran-Contra, led him to side with the other reich-wing nutcases on the Court on a ruling that holds that a President is immune from prosecution when exercising the 'core powers' of the presidency.

That ruling has created a monster that no one body or branch of our Govt will be able to easily reign in now. It should be no surprise to anyone that Trump is operating with impunity, because the USSC said he could.

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u/agreeingstorm9 15h ago

Yeah, thinking it's ok for your own VP to be executed is kind of rough.

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u/Open__Face 15h ago

And Mike was the biggest Trump dick rider before that point too. You'd have to be crazy to be like "it couldn't happen to me"

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u/TheSpitefulRant 17h ago

I mean there were multiple videos of previous Trump staffers saying not to vote for him. Pence went on TV to do so

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u/charlie_marlow 15h ago

It was a fairly large component of Harris's campaign ads. Now, why she didn't have one ad blasting his COVID response or listing terrible decisions he made in his first term is beyond me.

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u/wisdomHungry 14h ago

Because MAGA people don t belive in covid, are antivaxx

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u/ranchojasper 17h ago

I spent the vast majority of early and mid 2020 desperately trying to make people understand that if he wins again it's going to be 1000 times worse because this time he actually understands that being president is not the same thing as running a business and that there are checks and balances and he has spent the last four years unilaterally removing every possibility of having anyone in his orbit that would be willing to try to stop him. Like John Kelly and Mike Pence are horrible, terrible people yet they refused to violate the constitution for him. Trump learned his lesson, and this time around way before the election he had already removed everyone but the most ass kissing sychophants.

There is literally no one who will even try to stop him anymore. Our country is done. We are fucked. We are completely fucked. And the number of people who don't realize this yet, the number of people who still believe that someone or something will be able to stop him is astonishing to me. We are absolutely goddamn fucked in every possible way. No one is coming to save us, no one is going to stop him. We will be an authoritarian oligarchy within 18 months

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u/snarkylimon 15h ago

Not if every single non Trumper riots on the streets and oust him from his palace. This has been done before. Regimes have been toppled. All you need is the will of the people, not quitting en mass like educated democrats have been bred to do.

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u/carpetbugeater 14h ago

Problem is they've weaponized the stupidity of the Trump base to stand opposed to any rebellion on the left. We need a fair amount of the Trumpers to switch sides so it doesn't turn into a civil war.

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u/snarkylimon 14h ago

Look I hear you and if this goes on, you will have a civil war on your hands. I don't see a way out of it, especially because there's too much emphasis on gun culture in USA. But look Asad was ousted, tyrants have been toppled, Indians kicked out the British after a bloody 200 years of exploitation. No system of power is so entrenched that it cannot be rooted out with enough death and blood. But that's it, that's a heavy price to pay.

On the flip side, I have to say — trump is and will be able to dismantle American relatively easily and legally-ish. If it's so easy, so bloodless and unobstructed for him to seize power and plant a dictatorship, what does it say about the system that made it possible? Maybe you guys need a civil war. And to rethink your elections, your executive bodies and how you give power to your leaders

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u/Bananus_Magnus 13h ago

You could emigrate to Europe

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u/WhatHappenedToUs2022 14h ago

100%. It's game over. There is no coming back from this. Certainly not in my lifetime.

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u/Police_us 13h ago

It's even worse because those who try to stop are being met with incredible resistance by people cheering for their own demise. 

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u/dilapidated_wookiee 17h ago

Many of them said not to vote in the election as he was unfit lol

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u/Timely-Hospital8746 17h ago

>Yes Men and sycophants

And a lot of very wealthy and powerful people whispering in his ear. Trump's a man that is willing to make deals, you know he's happy to listen when Musk and Thiel start yapping, as long as there's a bag in for Papa Trump.

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u/AbrahamDylan 13h ago

Ehh trump isn’t willing to make deals, he’s willing to extort.

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u/Rampant16 17h ago

Yup, Trump's first cabinet had at least some people that were actually qualified for their positions, had at least some sense of morality, and stood up to Trump eventually.

They were obviously all replaced with unqualified loyalists that would never have gotten anywhere near the Oval Office in any other administration. It all points to the broader goals of Trump's administration of identifying and removing obstacles to Trump's authority.

As disastrous as many of Trump's orders have been so far, the real pain is still to come once power is more fully consolidated.

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u/MyRealUser 16h ago

We made a huge deal out of it but his cult just buys into the whole "they were part of the deep state" or whatever BS Fox tells them to believe. There is nothing you can tell a Trump supporter that will make them stop supporting him

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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth 16h ago

I think Trump is also being controlled much more than last time. So I think this is true to an extent I also think there are some wielding more influence on Trump than before.

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u/Genoss01 16h ago

Trump is not being controlled, he can be manipulated, but not controlled