I dunno why you gave me irrelevant and useless info. But anyways, you’re calling someone a piece of shit for no reason. They look to just be hunting for food and it went awry. Why’s that so bad?
Okay? That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, however I don't like the way this guy is handling this octopus. So in my opinion, this guy is a total piece of shit. Do you understand now?
Prople have killed and hunted animals for sustenance for as long as we've existed. what he is doing is more ethical than what you buy at the supermarket. you shouldn't est meat if thats how you feel. If your vegan, i can respect the sentiment, however
I can respect that. But you gotta be it'd be hypocritical for one to be annoyed with this while they eat products from factory farms.
Since you're vegan I dont think you're a hypocrite. I may not be vegan but I understand and care for the welfare of animals. Thats why i buy local goods
Get in your high horse if you want but if that’s your position you better never eat calamari or any other meat if you care that much. I’ve seen the condition live stalk are abused and slaughtered in and I will still enjoy a good steak.
I never do as a matter of fact. Either way, I'm not the one thinking humans are so much better than any animal. You are quite the cunt then, if you know about the conditions and stilk don't give a damn.
If I come into your home and start abusing your pet, are you also going "Oh no, anyways..." and applaud me?
It's not that we don't care, we would like them to be treated better, but in this case it is not abusedm it is being fished to be eaten. Isnt this like the most humane way to do it instead of fsrming it? Like make up your mind yall
Ah, so you either got no answer to my question or refuse to answer it since it makes you uncomfortable.
To answer yours, I did not want the guy to drown (beside the camera person being there to help if it got seriously dangerous), but he certainly learned a lesson, I should hope.
You are on one today. The octopus was clinging to him and sticking its tentacle into his mouth so he was trying to get it off himself. Yeah there is gonna be some violent pulling and yanking. What was he supposed to do? Just stay there and take it?
That’s not an equivalent metaphor. That’s not anyone’s octopus.
If I saw a random human getting shot and a stray dog getting shot, I’d feel worse for the human. Would you not? I feel like that’s closer to what’s happening here.
this isnt random though, the human entered the octopus’ home and started interacting with it by poking at it and grabbing it.
if a random human and a random dog were fighting in the street, but it turned out the human started it by kicking the dog, would your opinion stay the same?
Octopus was basically practicing Stand Your Ground law. Castle doctrine. This will be a rare occurrence in a couple years though once all the reefs are bleached due to rising ocean temperatures. The octopi will move to deeper waters and likely survive as we all perish on land. Octopi will have the final laugh.
You’d feel equally bad for both? Or would you care about a human life more than a stray dog?
I’d like to revise their metaphor again. If a burglar came into your home and started abusing your dog and your spouse, who are you going to care about more? Human life is inherently more valuable imo.
I'm happy for you human life is more important in your opinion. That's where we differ in opinion however, nothing bad about having different opinions.
This human was behaving in a cruel way toward and innocent creature. That octopus is only defending itself. People simply care more about innocent animals than a selfish human being with no moral compass.
Have you ever seen massive trawlers used for commercial fishing industry? If you have eaten any seafood at all, it was most likely caught by those ships
They’re not being cruel, they’re fishing. That’s how you catch octopuses. If everyone here cared more about innocent animals then they’d be vegans. Live stalk are treated far worse for far longer than a squid getting caught. Could it have dispatched it quicker? Sure. But it’s torment was relatively short by comparison.
Cheers! I felt like I was spelling it wrong. I was pretty sure it was one word but autocorrect kept suggesting stalk because I can’t spell for shit lmao.
Do you think autocorrect makes people worse at spelling? Cuz back in the day you’d have to spell everything by hand or by typewriter. An error could ruin a page. I’m thinking it was an exchange for words per minute vs accuracy. Today we can type everything faster but because we can delete errors we go faster as opposed to the olden days where precision was key.
There's a lot of humans. Don't care about the dumb ones. If you maliciously fuck with a wild animal and it gets you, that's the way it goes. Some exceptions, like if it's a little kid. This was an adult that was being a dumbass to an animal; an intelligent one at that.
I don’t think there was malice in this interaction. They’re fishermen there to fish and stumbled upon an octopus den. He wasn’t fucking with it so much as he fucked up catching it.
Also I did mess up with the calamari thing but it’s so much funnier thinking people are okay with that because it’s a squid but draw the line at octopus.
Idk maybe. I don't have any experience with this. I actually won't eat octopus but I don't really give a shit about squid. Octopus are really smart and I feel wrong eating animals that are really intelligent. Pigs are apparently smart, but fuck pigs. They're huge dickheads lol.
Lmao I love the cost benefit analysis. “I don’t wanna eat smart animals, buuuuuuut, bacon is delicious so they deserve it!” Lmao. Bacon is too good to give up, that’s a fact!
Smart but keep to themselves, don't eat. Smart but an asshole, eat. It's not even that bacon tastes good. I don't like apes either, I'd eat them too if they tasted good. Orcas are cool, wouldn't eat them. It's all on a species-by-species basis. Nothing is black and white, so it is what it is I guess lol.
It’s funny that this is how you set your rules. Orcas are some of the biggest assholes in the ocean! There’s a couple orcas that are notorious for eating only shark livers and leave the rest of the shark die. They’re the most vicious killers in the ocean. Also they’d have the most meat to feed people with.
Idk if I should be proud of this or not but I ate a kangaroo steak when I went to Europe. Idk if it was actually or not, I do know that was delicious! Then again I guess that would fall into your smart but asshole, so it’s fair game.
Tbh I don't feel one way or the other about kangaroos lol. Yeah, orcas are assholes to other animals, but for the most part not humans. Tbh this isn't something I've ever really thought about that hard so I probably will be hypocritical in some ways.
Just because humans are domesticated animals doesn't make us better. I know tribalism is in our biology, so many people will side with a human over a different animal, but honestly, humans are the biggest poison to this earth. Wild animals are productive members of the circle of life. There's nothing wrong with respecting them for their helpful contributions, while condemning humans when they actively harm them for no reason.
Oh, why didn’t they just TELL the octopus, then. What a rude octopus. This human is hungry and can’t possibly find something else to eat. I sure that’s what is going on here.
Humans eat animals all day every day… you’re just upset you’re seeing how the sausage is made. Calamari is served all around the world. It’s not inhumane to eat fish. You better be a vegan if that’s your stance.
They’re not killing the octopus for sport. It’s what every predator in the animal kingdom does.
Calamari is squid. Although I do enjoy a good takoyaki.
Eating meat is part of life for most animals. The problem is humans produce an overwhelming amount of food waste while also leaving a significant portion of their population starving.
Sometimes, we just want to root for the little guy. I also root for the deer when it's chased by the wolf, and I root for the wolf when it's starving and alone. I'll root for any underdog. Except hippos and mosquitoes. Fuck those dudes.
This is a stance I can get behind. I guess it’s not about blind allegiance to one or the other. There is some nuance involved. Thank you for broadening my perspectives. Fuck all other hippos except for mu-dang. They get a pass for being adorable 🥰
Newly hatched octopuses will eat small foods such as copepods, larval crabs, and sea stars. Adult octopuses feed on crabs, clams, snails, small fishes, and even other octopuses.
Cuz they’re soooo innocent. This thing could be a cannibal for all you know. It’s certainly a murderer in your eyes where all fish lives matter.
I’m not mad at the fish for trying to survive. I think it’s wild people are getting mad at fishermen fishing. They’re doing their jobs and putting food in the table.
Ok, so just because it's been a way of life for thousands of years doesn't make it right. There are lots of horrible things that have been "a way of life" for ages.
Did you know that due to their intelligence, octopuses are listed in some countries as experimental animals on which surgery may not be performed without anesthesia, a protection usually extended only to vertebrates?
Octopus are not fish. They have independently evolved mammal-like intelligence. They can solve complex puzzles and use tools
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