r/arcane 21h ago

Discussion Ekko gets done dirty in this show

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Something I have realized when looking at Arcanetwt and Arcane Reddit is how Ekko is only ever talked about in regards to Timebomb. Even those who don't ship timebomb only talk about him in that context, which is such a bummer. LC shippers will say all the time that TB shippers only talk about Ekko with the ship as a way to dunk on TB shippers, and pretend they care about Ekko somehow. But it's not like those shippers show any love to Ekko either lol. Ekko is my favorite character and while TB is a ship I love, I hate that it's the only reason he's even talked about. It got me thinking though that (outside the AU episode) Ekko has no character development or characterization outside of how he can help other characters or move the plot along. Not to mention nobody in the show gives a shit about him, including Jinx if we are being real. In season 2, the ONLY character from the MU who shows any affection or appreciation of Ekko is Heimerdinger. Jinx doesn't think about him at all, Vi doesn't even say his name or interact with him, and his scenes with Jayce are not brought up at all. Maybe I am being dramatic cuz Ekko is a side character, but the show seems to pick and choose when to treat him like a side character vs. a MC and the fandom does the same. All this is to say that Ekko deserves better.


r/arcane 10h ago

Discussion Season 2's massive scope hides its inefficiency

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In discussing season 2, there's much talk about the pacing. Rightfully so, it's mile-a-minute stuff. And there is also reference to the fact that there probably should've been a season or two extra, which is also entirely reasonable.

But I feel like this sort of discussion can distract from the fact that season 2 was not very efficient with the time it did have, especially when compared to season 1. Yes, they had a lot to cover in a short time with the story they chose, but they absolutely could've put the time they did have to better use.

Season 1 of Arcane is magnificently efficient. There are very few extraneous scenes, or even scenes that "only" work for one character. The script is multithreaded, at any given time several threads are being fleshed out. This is not so in season 2.

For an illustration of this from season 1, take the Hextech Demo to Heimerdinger in E4. I could've chosen a whole lot of other scenes, this is by no means unique, but I'm just particularly fond of this one. This scene, on its face, is just fanservice slop. Everyone gets to say "omigawd it's Viktor with his deathray and Jayce with Vi's gauntlets. It's the thing from the thing, I clapped". But the scene does so much more. The actual inventions display character, with Jayce's being less outright impressive, but more fully finished, more practical and more reliable. Viktor's is more flashy and scientifically impressive, but less aesthetically pleasing, less practical, and foreshadowing his later issues in the story, he has not done the work to make it safe. The inventions themselves show what should be expected from Hextech. Jayce speaking on behalf of Viktor establishes their dynamic, with Jayce running the people-stuff and Viktor staying sqaurely focused on his work. Heimerdinger's reactions and his response show that he's not a luddite by any means, but is far too cautious for either of the inventors. Jayce not fighting back more against his response despite Viktor's immense displeasure shows the beginnings of a rift in this mouthpiece-system, with Jayce not necessarily reflecting all of Viktor's views. And I could go on. It is a very dense scene.

In contrast, season 2 indulges in a lot of very single threaded scenes, culminating in the almost absurdly single-threaded 7th episode, which is completely isolated to the characters transported to the AU. Jayce in his hole develops Jayce in his hole, and that's it. Ekko stumbling around with the AU people develops Ekko, and a bunch of people we will never see again.

The characters of season 2 are also bizarrely inefficient, especially when contrasted with season 1. Season 1 wrote character into the margins of the script. Take Marcus. He is a means to an end script-wise, supplying reasons as to why Vi disappeared for so long, why the enforcers are so incompetent, and why Caitlyn can't just walk across the bridge. He does not receive much screentime at all. And yet, they crammed in a well done character into this plot required role. Even his death, which receives almost no attention, is perfectly fitting for the character they built up. And his scenes develop other people as well. Silco, Jayce, Caitlyn, he's not just isolated.

Compare that with season 2. There's a lot of easy targets in season 2 for criticism. Take Smeech. He was a relatively charming character in E2 who received a few scenes and quite a bit of dialogue. He was built up... and then died. That's all folks, it's over for Smeech. The other Chembarons pique the interest of the viewer for what time they do appear, and then they get murked in a music video, never to return. Never mind the goonsquad Caitlyn brought along as the Task Force, who receive bizarre amounts of attention for how vacuous they are.

And then there's Isha, who combines both of these problems. She receives exorbitant amounts of screentime, rivalling Viktor from season 1, and outdoing Vander. And she completely revolves around Jinx to the expense of everyone else. Silco she is not, she's running a 100% Jinx ecosystem and will not interact with the story meaningfully in any other way. And she's utterly hollow as a character, so she's basically just a vehicle for just Jinx characterbuilding. This is unfathomably inefficient. Putting her up against Vander or Viktor feels unfair, but it isn't. She could be a comparably deep character, but she's just someone to develop Jinx.

And finally, while this post isn't supposed to be focusing on the actual events contained within S2, and just the ways they tried to achieve them... God, some of these choices are manically inefficient. Like, did we really need FOUR separate and distinct Viktors (Jesus, Space Satan, Mage, and True)? Would we not have been better off with one single Viktor, and developing him the whole way through, instead of starting up a new guy every few episodes? And then there's the incessant music videos, which drain time away from more cerebral scenes and absolutely do not carry the same weight as actual real parts of the show. If the police brutality in Paint the Town Blue was not a couple frames of a highly stylized music video, the events would be regarded very differently. And if Hellfire wasn't a completely bizarre musical tone for the events shown, the gassing of the Undercity would've been regarded more soberly. But they just keep coming, in every episode, without fail.

I won't deny that achieving everything they wanted to achieve in season 2 in just 9 episodes was very, very difficult. Even with season 1 tier writing, it would've been somewhat rushed. But it would've been much, much less rushed, because they could've done a lot more with less.


r/arcane 19h ago

Fanart Jayce and Viktor

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Hi! Recently I finished my paiting of these two, and decided to share it here! Feel free to interpret the image in various way!


r/arcane 4h ago

Fanart JayVik lover

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In the heart of Piltover, Jayce and Viktor stood as two sides of the same coin—visionaries bound by ambition and tragedy. Their bond, forged in sleepless nights and heated debates, pulsed with unspoken tension. Jayce’s fire met Viktor’s calm intellect, and somewhere between science and ideals, they found something deeper. Though paths diverged, echoes of what could’ve been lingered—in every glance, in every invention, in every silence. Ok In the heart of Piltover, Jayce and Viktor stood as two sides of the same coin—visionaries bound by ambition and tragedy. Their bond, forged in sleepless nights and heated debates, pulsed with unspoken tension. Jayce’s fire met Viktor’s calm intellect, and somewhere between science and ideals, they found something deeper. Though paths diverged, echoes of what could’ve been lingered—in every glance, in every invention, in every silence.


r/arcane 13h ago

Cosplay Cosplay concerns for Viktor

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Hello,

I know this kind of question has been asked before, but I felt the need to discuss it anyway. Basically like many people I have been looking to cosplay Viktor from Arcane, and I have concerns about doing it respectfully. I have been very much torn about how to do it right.

My concerns are mainly in regards to including his leg brace and/or cane/crutch in my cosplay or not.

From what I’ve gathered it’s a mixed bag, with some people saying as long as you don’t pretend to limp or be disabled it’s okay, and others saying (and that I completely side with) a disability is not a prop so it shouldn’t be done at all.

I am also worried about erasure if the mobility aid isn’t included, because Viktor is many things other than his disability but it does still play a big role in his story.

Moreover, on a personal level I am currently trying to process, in my 30s, the very recent diagnosis and recognition of several actual disabilities (which are able-bodied ones but have rendered me unable to work for six months), namely autism, ADHD, and Tourette’s (which has been plaguing me since childhood but was never named as such before - mainly humming and coughing for no reason) amongst other mental health struggles. In that regard I have been relating a lot to Viktor and the character is very dear to me, including the disability part even though my disabilities are absolutely not the same as mobility-related ones and I am very much aware of this.

This is making me lean towards the possibility of making the crutch and brace, from scratch so I don’t use actual mobility aids in the process, and so it’s clear it’s not a real one. I would not be putting weight on the crutch or pretending to be disabled, it’ll be carried. To be clear: I would not be using it walking, it’d be only for pictures I do not intend to post anywhere. The other option I am considering is cosplaying season 2 Viktor where he isn’t leaning on his staff as much.

I’ll also mention I have been having toe joint flare-ups for close to a year now which at worst had me in pain and limping, but I have yet to see a doctor about because I was afraid of being asked to stop putting weight on my foot (dumb, I know, but the mental health stuff is already a lot for me to process right now).

My aim here is not to “justify“ the making of the mobility aids in cosplay, it is only to know the opinion of other people, because being disabled but able-bodied has me worried I might make untrue assumptions and I desperately want to avoid this.

Sorry if this got a bit long, and many thanks in advance for any answers you might have! Thank you for your time.

EDIT: Thanks everyone for your input! This was very helpful. I think I will settle on making the costume based on the short span of time in the series where Viktor has had his leg replaced and is not using his crutch, where the body modifications cannot be mistaken for a mobility aid.


r/arcane 14h ago

Discussion why is caitlyn’s colour scheme purple in league yet blue in arcane?

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i’ve been wondering about this for a while and idk if i was like being delusional and seeing blue while everyone saw purple but why is her colour scheme blue, when she’s got a purple theme in LoL? ik arcane doesn’t fully copy the character designs from LoL and they didn’t for her because she’s missing the obvious top hat however i feel like her colour still should’ve been purple so what’s the reason for it being blue? does this make sense

also idk how much more i have to yap to get to 500 charactersssszzsssssssssssssss help when will this end pls


r/arcane 23h ago

Fanart Jinx is tired, I would be too

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r/arcane 8h ago

Discussion [Lore Spoilers] Why was Mel in that Hood During Act 3? Spoiler

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I still don't understand why Mel was walking around in a hood when she got back to Piltover. Even when Mel and Jayce were just walking together she had her hood on like she was trying to hide her identity, but from who? Mel didn't hide her return from Ambessa. Her absence was apparently the talk of the town for a while. I don't think a hood is going to trick LeBlanc or the Black Rose from finding her, but there goes Mel still walking around like she's in Assassin's Creed.

Does she not want people to see her new tattoos? Will Piltovans assume that she's a mage because of it? How hostile are Piltovans towards mages since they can exile non-mages for even dabbling with magic? I don't think most would assume the they're magic related, but it would be weird to know someone who'd been missing for months came back with way more tattoos and a new hairdo.

I did once read a theory that hood might foreshadow Mel's role as the Faceless One in Noxus' Trifarix council. Personally, I subscribe to the theory that Mel will become the Faceless One, but if this is a clue, it's pretty clunky.

Yes the Faceless One in Noxus wears robes, a hood, and mask to hide their identity because their role is specifically like a spy master that keeps the nobility in line. But that's Noxus, a nation that's super down for murder and revenge, this is Piltover, which is only moderately down for murder depending on the political inconvenience, and there's just no need.

I don't think most people would get this as foreshadowing, even if they knew the lore. It's just weird. Frankly Mel already showed her job qualifications in most of her scenes pre-kidnapping. If they wanted to make it more obvious, idk, get Swain's ravens to bother her more directly to lead her to the Black Rose, or just have him send her a letter.

This has gotten a little away from me. Anyway the hood is weird. A lot of things are weird by Act 3.


r/arcane 2h ago

Discussion Jinx wearing Ekkos jacket

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so it is 100% confirmed thats his coat


r/arcane 11h ago

Shitpost / Meme What do think each is thinking

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r/arcane 16h ago

Shitpost / Meme This broke me... (S2 E6 spoilers) Spoiler

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I binge watched from S2 episode 4 until the finale. Tears. I can't believe they found vander, just to have him killed, and poor isha... also the song what have they to us and remember me just breaks me everytime I hear it now, why couldn't they let my boy live!! Episode 5-6 must have been the most I've cried in a show. Then I cried at wasteland, then again at the line, THEN AGAIN at "I promised you". This whole show was so good but an absolute tearfest. I think in total I cried about 6 or 7 times...


r/arcane 11h ago

Discussion What if Jinx stayed a villain and died halfway into season 2, with Viktor as the final villain? How would you have felt?

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r/arcane 5h ago

Cosplay my fractured jinx cosplay

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r/arcane 3h ago

Shitpost / Meme Cait and vi prison scene

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r/arcane 7h ago

Discussion Why were the council so angry? Spoiler

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I’m on S1E9 and just watched the scene where jayce and viktor announce the to council the deal jayce made with silco. What i was wondering was why the council was so outraged at letting Zaun be independent. It felt that the under city was clearly a tumor for piltover which had no upside to keep under their jurisdiction as they got no industry or soldiers or anything useful from it so why were they so angry? Now i understand giving recognition of power to a terrorist such as silco is dangerous but he already effectively has control of the entire under city. So yeah, hence the question


r/arcane 20h ago

Discussion Help!!! Arcane Proposal Ideas

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I wanna ask my girlfriend to prom—she’s obsessed with Arcane, but I’m not funny enough to come up with a pun for the promposal poster. 😞😞

I wanted something CaitVi or JayVik related since she’s in love with her doomed yaoi/yuri ships. 😭

So far I have: “Would you be my good passenger? ’Cause I think we’d look fantastic at prom.”

For the Jayvik i wanted to include something with Glorious Evolution maybe some stupid like being my partner idk im so stuck

If anyone has better Arcane-themed ideas (even dumb or chaotic ones), please help me out!! 🙏🏽


r/arcane 5h ago

Discussion Wasteland - ost in that scene Spoiler

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Wasteland ost in jinx suicide scene was fucking awsome, the fact that you can hear it as a thing jinx played while she was talking to ekko is fucking remarkable. The lyrics starting as " Please let me go" to when ekko entered "Don't let me go", I will never recover from this.


r/arcane 4h ago

Discussion can we get this into jinx vs cait fanart...🙏

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r/arcane 20h ago

Fanart I’ve been thinking about act 2 again

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r/arcane 22h ago

Discussion My Wish for Singed's Fate Spoiler

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I want Oriana to be the one who kills Singed. It should feel like a twisted, poetic reversal—Frankenstein’s monster turning on its creator.

But more than that, I want Singed to be disappointed. Deeply, crushingly disappointed. I want him to see her not as a triumph, but as a hollow failure. In that final moment, he should finally realize: this is not his daughter. Not even a spark of her remains. All the pain he inflicted, all the atrocities he justified in the name of saving her—it was for nothing.

He’s clung to the belief that his intentions were for love, that the end would justify the horrors he wrought. But when he reaches the end, there’s no victory waiting. Only a mockery of the girl he loved—a broken doll that can’t even pretend to be her. No warmth. No memory. No recognition.

And in that moment, he finally sees the truth: he didn’t save her. He destroyed her. He destroyed everything he touched.

Just a madman chasing ghosts.


r/arcane 21h ago

Discussion Do you think this quote from Miguel is something that Ekko would agree with after his decision to leave the Hextech free universe in order to save his own world

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r/arcane 5h ago

Fanart The Line cover which Arcane song should I cover next?

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r/arcane 23h ago

Shitpost / Meme female friendship>>>>> Spoiler

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r/arcane 3h ago

Shitpost / Meme These memes are getting out of hand😂

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