r/classicwow 2d ago

Humor / Meme And sometimes a small brilliant shard

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u/RoundAffectionate424 2d ago

I swear some people would rather try and sell a boe for months without a buyer because of their ridiculous prices rather than cutting/negociating the price, just to never sell the item at a lower price.

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u/CaptainInsanoMan 2d ago

When people get a random blue or epic drop, they're just wishing it was an actual good one. But most of them aren't, however they still feel like they hit a "jackpot" for getting the item in the first place, so they try to sell it absurd prices. 

I tried buy a Mughols Helm for my alt pally, it's basically the same as the plate helm from RFD (I had terrible luck with the helm dropping). People were listing it at 90g. Like it's not a great helm and there is a dungeon equalivalent you can get 7 levels lower. Watched the price slowly drop down to 6g over the week and got one. 

People just like wasting gold on AH fees I suppose. 

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u/RoundAffectionate424 2d ago

What's crazy to me is the playerbase knows by now what boes are worth, yet you still see those AH "flippers" trying to overprice worthless crap.

One time I sold the hammer of the northern wind that dropped, I think I sold it for 29g, was surprised because the item is garbage and looking at the buyer it was someone who flipped items. As expected I see this guy posting the item for 50g. A week later the same guy is posting the item for the original price, a week after that he posted it for 20g lol.

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u/cinnamon107 2d ago

Would've probably been smarter to save the hammer for AQ40 since it's very useful for Viscidus and will probably spike in price by then.

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u/RoundAffectionate424 2d ago

Nope, unless people don't know about coldrage dagger and the darrowspike dagger, the quest reward from one of the scholo quests. Anyone buying that is either for that fight is either being lazy or don't understand the fight and how this mace is worse than the two options I listed. To be clear I'm not attacking you or anything, it just goes back to my initial point that the player base should know better by now.

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u/CaptainInsanoMan 2d ago

The hammer of Northern wind has the highest proc rate for frostbolt proc weapons. Darrowspike dagger has one of the lowest. Cold rage is 2nd highest. And 2 cold rage will do for most people, however min maxers and lazy people still want the Hammer of Northern wind. 

I bought about 15 of them for 20g in SoD, and sold all of them for 100g each in AQ40 dropped. 

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u/RoundAffectionate424 2d ago

Wrong, I tested it, you can even find the info on wowhead's comment sections, coldrage is the highest proc chance, around 10%, the other two have around 3% proc chance but darrowspike is faster.

Good for you, personally it's not my thing to sell stuff based on wrong info, especially after testing it.

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u/CaptainInsanoMan 2d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/g8py9t/proc_rates_of_1handed_weapons_with_coldbased_procs/

Idk where you get your info from. But try to not be dick while also being wrong, twice. 

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u/RoundAffectionate424 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not the numbers I've found, and I tested it the same way this guy did, except for one crucial difference, I didn't hit over 2000 swings, I took around 1 minute fights as a template. What tends to happen is proc get normalized over long periods of the time, but over short period of time, there's huge variance in classic, and faster weapon tend to reduce this variance over short period of time.

So you're right, strictly speaking, the ppm is higher for the hammer, in reality the way proc chance work with procs happening in the first few seconds of the fight, a short fight favors fast weapons, even if the proc is slightly inferior over long periods of time.

As a note, for this fight you would also apply frost oil, so anyway coldrage dagger is still the best option, and it's free.

Edit: one last proof, a comparison of logs, one using 2 coldrage dagger, the other using hammer +coldrage:

https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xgqZbX1yMc64m7BL?fight=22&type=damage-done&source=16

https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/reports/34aTzBrXfYAtw9Zv?fight=14&type=summary&source=21

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u/lord_james 2d ago

The flip side of this is that you can make good gold if your patient.

I sold a Bloodrazor for 90g in trade chat. I’d been sitting on it for weeks, it was listed regularly at 60g-75g on the AH, and usually didn’t sell at that price. I posted in trade chat whenever I got on my bank alt. After a couple weeks, the other swords sold and there weren’t any left on the AH. Some rogue in trade chat bought mine.

Or the BoE pieces to the dungeon class sets. Sometimes there’s a billion of them and they are listed for 2g. It can literally be better to shard them. But sometimes, if you’re patient, you can get 10+ gold because there just aren’t any on the AH right then. I just made 25g off Lightbringer bracers and the beaststalker bracers just sold for 9g. I’ve made probably 100g off 4 or 5 gauntlets of valor in the same way.

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u/TacoTaconoMi 2d ago

Bloodrazor is actually pretty decent even if overpaying a bit. Now compare that to trying to sell the ardent custodian for 90g which is bad in every aspect

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u/lord_james 2d ago

Uhh, so that’s actually 2nd pre-BiS for feral tank.

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u/TacoTaconoMi 2d ago

I had a feeling that was the case