(OC) AI 'art' and the future

[u/SylvieXX]

Could be controversial but I'm just gonna say it... I don't like AI... and for me it was never about it not looking good. There are obviously more factors to this whole thing, like about people losing jobs, about how the whole thing is just stealing, and everything like that but I'm just focusing on one fundamental aspect that I think about a lot... I just wanted to draw what I feel...! 🥲🥲 Sorry about the cringe but I actually live for cringe 💖

[u/CK1ing]

But if you use a time machine to go into the future, then logically that future version of you would have done it as well. So if you see something in the future that you want to change, and you actually have the power to do so, then that creates a paradox because if you do manage to change it, then you never would have seen that thing in the future in the first place. Alternatively, you can avoid the paradox by assuming everything you see when traveling to the future is set in stone, that you going to the future is effectively what causes the future you see

[u/AM_Hofmeister → u/CK1ing]

You assume a linear unchanging time stream. It's possible that the time machine only shows you a potential future. Since we already disrupted any possible linear timeline, I see no reason why a timeline where a person never traveled from the past could be visited by a version of themselves which did. The very nature of time travel means our ordinary view of cause and effect is fairly obsolete. Hell, look into Hume and his theory of causality. Even now we question the nature of cause and effect.

[u/CK1ing → u/AM_Hofmeister]

I mean, that would hardly be a time machine then, would it? If it shows you a future where you never used the time machine, then that's more like the what-if machine from futurama, you know?

[u/AM_Hofmeister → u/CK1ing]

Again, you assume time is linear. You've seemingly baked in certain cause and effect into the definition of time. Again. Hume. Causality as a matter of human perception. Do you witness one thing cause another or do you witness one thing and then another and your brain creates the causation?

But that's not good enough, imo. So:

In another logic string:

If you assume that the very appearance of the time machine creates a paradox, then may it not be that very paradox which enables one to visit a future which is not to have been if you had not entered the time machine? We've already entered into the realm of paradox, so why then ontologically limit ourselves beneath the logical parameters very paradox we have already created? Once the time barrier is broken, name for me the reason its river only flows forward.

[u/CK1ing → u/AM_Hofmeister]

I mean, the point of my comment was to try and logic our way out of the paradox, not jump further into it. Taking that attitude with time is liable to cause a rift in the timeline, or even erase the timeline entirely, I'll have you know

[u/AM_Hofmeister → u/CK1ing]

All fine points. My counter: if the rift in the timeline is predetermined then wouldn't it have already happened? Hence, what harm could it cause to dive further? Hell, what danger could we risk if we don't???