r/dontyouknowwhoiam • u/Hustle787878 • Mar 06 '25
Unknown Expert “looks like vanity to me”
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u/Thalaas Mar 06 '25
*not sure how much use being strong and in-shape is in a fight*
Even if she wasn't a muai thai expert she'd probably still beat you with sheer strength judging by those arms.
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u/Hustle787878 Mar 06 '25
Right? That fucker would never say that within 50 feet of her.
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u/PoorDamnChoices Mar 06 '25
Probably not within 500 feet if she was speaking at a school.
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u/aluminum_man 29d ago
Oh damn, that made me actually laugh out loud. The subtlety of the implication is what got me.
(Cue 101 It’s Always Sunny “implication” comments)
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u/RawrRRitchie Mar 06 '25
There's people with big muscles that can't take a single hit
And then there's people with minimal muscles can take hit after hit and still get back up
Humanity is weird
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u/garbage-lord Mar 06 '25
1 in 3 people experience domestic violence before they reach adulthood
It’s not that weird when you factor in 30% of the population getting in some practice from childhood
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u/MyBodyIsAPortaPotty Mar 06 '25
I did wrestling and bjj for a long time and can handle myself
but if I get punched directly in the nose or take a hit to the liver I wanna cry 😂
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
Glass jaw
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u/EjaculatingAracnids Mar 06 '25
Everyones got a glass jaw... Everyone doesnt know how to protect it.
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
How coming spiders?
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u/EjaculatingAracnids Mar 06 '25
forth they crawl on legs of eight, everytime i masturbate
a tender grip pulls out a litter, seeking warmth of skin they skitter
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
I have no idea what’s going on
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u/ROKIT-88 Mar 06 '25
No one really does. That’s the beauty of this place.
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
“Everyones got a glass jaw... Everyone doesnt know how to protect it.”
This is meaningful, I just don’t know how
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u/EjaculatingAracnids Mar 06 '25
Sorry bud, i thought you were asking how i come spiders, so i wrote a poem explaining that. I think i get your question now.
Everyones got the ability to knocked out if sufficient force hits their jaw. Its not a negative trait that some possess and some dont. Force from the side(hook), rotating the skull, or force from the bottom(uppercut) pushing the skull backward cause the brain to suffer trauma and induce loss of consciousness. The jaw is just a really good crank to turn the head fast enough to shut the brain off.
This can be defended against by strengthening the neck and upper back muscles sufficiently, protecting the jaw by positioning it tucked against the chest and below the shoulders. Also by practicing the head movent, timing, distance, footwork training taught in boxing schools.
Of course, guys who train to get punched in the face are harder to knock out, but its still something that can happen to anyone if they get hit right. Ive had my head knocked around for 8 rounds by some big bastards and didnt go down, but ive been sucker punched by a skinny teenager right on the button and saw the lights flicker, so to speak.
Sorry for the weird poem, its just creative writing thing i like to do when someone asks about my name.
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u/Distinct_Mix5130 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
Honestly can't say I agree, sure SHE would (but because she has martial arts experience), but big arms and muscles don't mean they can punch, I know cause I used to kickbox, seen hundreds of fighters, all beginners bodybuilders tend to be EXTREMELY slow punchers, all that muscle weight makes they're hands very slow, plus they're always swinging rather then punching, I've seen a giant bodybuilder with giant arms and full muscle definition get destroyed by a tiny 1'65m 50 kg kid, keep in mind both had the same amount of martial arts experience.
Muay Thai fighters in Thailand are an obvious example as to how almost no muscle can still be lethal, so muscles don't mean much in a fight.
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u/abicepgirl Mar 06 '25
The rhetorical you is also untrained or average. An untrained bodybuilder would more likely beat up an untrained average person because they're stronger.
And two fighters with the same amount of martial arts experience don't absorb it the same. Equal skill would be more relevant.
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u/Majestic-Cancel7247 Mar 06 '25
Nope, that never happened. Cool made up story though dude, I’m sure everyone clapped afterwards too.
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u/jce_ Mar 06 '25
I mean it's pretty common knowledge in the martial arts world that big muscles aren't really the best. The more muscle you have the more energy you need to use them. I don't 100% doubt them
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u/Distinct_Mix5130 Mar 06 '25
I don't 100% doubt them
Right?, bros acting like I said personal stories about me being a badass or something, when in reality I was saying things about OTHERS, why would I ever make that up 🤦.
I mean it's pretty common knowledge in the martial arts world that big muscles aren't really the best.
Exactly. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say dude above is just fully clueless about anything martial arts related 😂
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u/HEBushido Mar 06 '25
Francis Ngannou
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u/jce_ Mar 06 '25
Wow the fact 1 single fighter comes to mind proves my point more than the other
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u/Distinct_Mix5130 Mar 06 '25
Lmfao, EVERYONE who's ever stepped into a martial arts gym would agree with me, and would easily tell that you don't know jack shit about martial arts. Or fighting in general. I'm assuming you're one of those "when I see red it's over" people?, so this reality check hurt you?
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u/YeaDudeImOnReddit Mar 06 '25
Not op but muscles are definitely an indicator of strength strong people who train can be very good. Some of the best fighters ever were muscle bound dudes with more juice in them than Tropicana and the strength was a competitive advantage. Overeem, Wanderlei, Brock, and countless others looked like action figures. In the gym there are some skinny killers but the truly serious ones are also built in my experience.
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u/Distinct_Mix5130 Mar 06 '25
I definitely agree, my point was muscles aren't a good indicator of a person who can beat up other people, martial arts AND muscle is definitely a dangerous Convo though, no disagreement there, it's just zero martial arts experience and big muscles... Isn't really an indicator of someone who can throw hands, yn what I mean
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u/Majestic-Cancel7247 Mar 06 '25
Agree with this statement wholeheartedly.
Also, this is not what your original comment put forth.
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u/Majestic-Cancel7247 Mar 06 '25
Well…..I’ve trained BJJ for the last 8 years, but please do tell me how I don’t know jack shit.
That being said, when I started I was 6’1”, 155 lbs. After a lot of hard work, I now weigh in at 187 lbs, 12% body fat (still 6’1”, no gains on that front). I can confidently say that an untrained, 187 lb version of me would wipe the floor with the untrained 155 lb person I used to be.
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u/sigma7979 Mar 06 '25
You’ve been doing bjj for 8 years and don’t realize that muscle size doesn’t mean they are the strongest on the mat?
I dunno bro. Sounding like you don’t do bjj. Everyone in bjj learns that size ain’t the only factor after a few months only lol.
Something ain’t right
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u/Distinct_Mix5130 Mar 06 '25
You know, it's ironic how you tried to doubt my story, but in reality YOUR story sounds like bs. You've been doing bjj for 8 years and are still completely clueless about how techniques > muscle?!?
That's like martial arts 101 you dipshit
Either this story is completely made up, or you haven't learn jack shit the past 8 years 😂.
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u/BuildingArmor Mar 06 '25
It seems like a common thought that big muscles aren't also indicative of strength.
You see it a lot with people saying bodybuilders are weak.
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u/Neat-Cartographer384 Mar 06 '25
You can train for strength specifically without gaining much muscle sure but the idea that bodybuilders are weak is bullshit because bigger muscle mass still means you will be stronger. The entire way bodybuilders build muscle is through progressive overload where you increase the weight progressively on an exercise to continue challenging the target muscle, therefore even if strength isn't your main focus you still will get stronger.
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u/Lawlcopt0r Mar 06 '25
I think the issue is that bodybuilders often have no endurance, and very little coordination. When your giant mucles use up a lot of energy but your cardiovascular system isn't actually trained to deliver new energy quickly, you just get tired really quickly.
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u/Tyrus1235 Mar 08 '25
I’m sure bodybuilders are, on average, weaker than weight lifters.
They almost certainly are stronger than your average Joe, tho…
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u/BuildingArmor Mar 08 '25
Bodybuilders are weightlifters. How do you think they build that muscle?
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u/Tyrus1235 Mar 08 '25
The natty ones ok, but many use other means.
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u/BuildingArmor Mar 08 '25
There is absolutely no active bodybuilder who doesn't lift, no matter how much gear they're on.
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u/Dahak17 Mar 07 '25
Eh, lots of people have large muscles without the associated strength. Still a stupid thing to bet on though especially since she probably outweighs most people men or not
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u/rosiestinkie9 Mar 06 '25
Posting online is a form of vanity, yes. Which is also applied to random cartoon profile pic man as well. We out here for attention, my guy. If we weren't, we'd be quiet 🤫
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u/IDKyMyUsernameWontFi Mar 06 '25
I’d argue its not vanity by default, but it is by nature seeking validation. Which, to be clear, is normal and healthy in the right amounts. There’s a reason why we are uplifted by words of affirmation from our loved ones, validation is good for you from the right places. It only becomes vanity in excess, by definition.
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u/pnandgillybean Mar 06 '25
I don’t get why this guy thinks he know more about muscles than the person who has them. Even if she couldn’t fight, and it was for looks, it’s not like she wouldn’t understand why she was working out every day to get the muscle.
“Looks like vanity”, “not much use” like why do you think you can make a better value judgement than her? She is the one working out every day, she clearly thinks it’s worth it.
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u/abicepgirl Mar 06 '25
There are a lot of insecure blue collar guys who like the illusion that farm or work strength are somehow inherently superior than gym strength. It's not far off from little kids who watch anime and think they can power up in their room by yelling and flexing. The flipside of this is wiry guys who watch too much MMA and think that will make them a streamlined dolphin facing stumbling meatheads in a street fight.
It isn't to say that there aren't some learned efficiencies in movement patterns that you get from doing physical labor that gym goers may lack, but the actual muscles don't care about what your nervous system knows, they're strong regardless. Physical labor will have some technical benefits but most of the big guys I've worked with doing labor just also go to the gym.
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u/r1tualofchud Mar 06 '25
I never understand comments like that:
I go to the gym because it feels good and is healthy.
Looking better is just a nice secondary bonus.
But "being able to fight" is pretty low down the list of reasons.
I mean I have noticed that certain people don't try to fuck me around like they used to, so that's nice, probably the same people who make such comments...
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u/oof033 Mar 06 '25
A lot of women (and men too) get into strength building because of scary experiences in their past. Unfortunately realizing you aren’t strong enough to protect yourself in the worst of cases is really hard to cope with.
Obviously there are some folks who make those comments solely to look for a fight or appear intimidating, but a lot of people are just trying to protect themselves from the worst happening once more.
Source: started weightlifting as a woman after getting my ass kicked by a dude, have lots of friends who have done the same.
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u/Ning_Yu Mar 06 '25
I was gonna say something similar.
As a woman, my main goal has always been beign strong enough to defend myself, because I've indeed been through stuff. But even if I hadn't, we know what word we live in and how important it is to be able to defend ourselves.5
u/r1tualofchud Mar 06 '25
Well more power to them, honestly! Though it sucks that it's necessary.
I just wanted to question these "yeah but can you fight" comments like I've got no business being at the gym unless I also do MMA or something
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u/oof033 Mar 06 '25
Oh yeah i definitely know the type you’re talking about. Some folks just want to appear intimidating or scary, although sometimes I wonder how much of that is a reaction to feeling powerless at some point themselves? Then again, some people are just assholes lol. I hope I didn’t come across as dismissive or rude in my first comment, just an alternate perspective!
That’s kind of what I assumed the original poster was alluding to with “force is the only answer some folks take” as in they don’t take no. But of course that could be my projecting my own experiences lol.
I also get what you’re saying about fighting skills vs pure strength. I think for a lot of woman it’s kinda one of those things where anything helps- even just for peace of mind. I know realistically even with weight training I’m pretty much at the mercy of luck if someone much larger attacks me. But its better to have that extra strength and endurance than not at all, especially alongside self defense weapons! To me it feels like giving myself somewhat of an opportunity to even attempt to fight back, if that makes sense
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u/Lawlcopt0r Mar 06 '25
For what it's worth, I think most people that attack a woman are counting on the strength difference, most probably aren't experienced fighters. So just recognizing they can't easily overpower you may get them to back off.
Also, your confidence is definitely noticeable from the way you carry yourself and makes you less of a target
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u/stankiest_bean Mar 06 '25
Honestly, if you do weights, I'm sure you could crush someone like me in a matter of strength vs. strength.
But if your objective is to learn how to defend yourself and you're only doing strengthening exercises, I would really recommend finding a martial discipline to learn as well. It's one thing to have a body in peak form, and another thing entirely to know how to use it. The trick is finding one that's actually effective as a form of self defence, and isn't more of a stylised display/sport.
But if I'm telling you stuff you already know and are doing, sorry!
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u/oof033 Mar 06 '25
No need to apologize, I agree with you completely! I’ve actually only had to defend myself from people much larger than me, so I’ve got an ok grasp on leverage and gravity- but I’m looking into kickboxing/martial arts/boxing when I move into a bigger city. Hopefully I can find a beginners class lol
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u/stankiest_bean Mar 06 '25
Awesome, and good luck!
There are some great clubs out there - a lot of people are passionate about their branch of martial arts in the way of being very welcoming to newcomers, eager to share their expertise, and always willing to help their fellow members improve. Even if it takes a bit of shopping around, I don't doubt you'll be able to find such a place :)
EDIT: a good club will also tend to hold itself to a respectable code of conduct, which keeps the organisation healthy on multiple levels.
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u/contentlove Mar 06 '25
And she is the best on socials! Been following her for years because she takes no BS
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u/Hustle787878 Mar 06 '25
She is an all-around badass, that’s for sure! Don’t always agree with her, but I almost always learn something from her.
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u/know-it-mall Mar 06 '25
Lol. And Muay Thai is proper fighting too. There are a lot of karate people who would get their ass kicked in a street fight.
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u/theapplepie267 Mar 06 '25
depends on the type of karate.
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u/know-it-mall Mar 06 '25
Depends on how much of a McDojo you went to. There are no Muay Thai mcdojos.
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u/scaffelpike Mar 08 '25
Any martial art taught/learned properly will destroy you. Don’t be such an arrogant douche to assume all karate people are weak and all muay thai fighters are badass. You’re the kind of meathead that turns people off martial arts
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u/know-it-mall Mar 08 '25
And you are the kind of meat head that makes me hate the public schooling system.
Any martial art taught/learned properly will destroy you.
So therefore not taught at a McDojo.
Don’t be such an arrogant douche to assume all karate people are weak
I didn't say they were.
and all muay thai fighters are badass.
It's definitely a higher percentage than karate. Muay Thai has a much higher emphasis on actually sparring and fighting than karate does.
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u/GrolarBear69 Mar 06 '25
There's always someone bigger, stronger, faster, or meaner than you, and sometimes that someone is a Woman.
Lol ! I personally know three women in my life that can outlift and kick ass on most of the men Ive met.
Vast majority of the male population on this planet can't do 10 pushups, 10 pull ups, and 10 sit ups, inside of an hour .
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u/italyqt Mar 06 '25
The karate I go to has a little old lady who is one of the masters. She looks so small and meek, she would kick anyone’s ass I know and not break a sweat doing it.
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u/Quantum_McKennic Mar 06 '25
I took aikido classes a while ago, and one of the black belts was a very small (under 5’ and maybe 110 lbs if she’d eaten a heavy meal that day) elderly woman who regularly threw large, bulky men around the dojo like they were made of feathers. I wouldn’t want to be the person who tried to mug her in a dark alley
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u/WatchfulWarthog Mar 06 '25
I don’t know if I’ve been able to do a pull up since grade school. Even when I’m in shape enough to do pushups, whatever muscles pull-ups require seem to be lacking
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u/GrolarBear69 Mar 06 '25
Admittedly I only recently achieved 10 pull ups at 6'8 300 lbs and it was the hardest thing I've ever attempted. Took 3 years of assistance bands and grab/slow release. But no shame, my trainer said very few normal people can pull off one let alone ten.
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u/cheshsky Mar 07 '25
I've never been able to do one at all. I haven't been purposefully exercising in the past half a year or so, but even when I did work out, I never managed to do a single pull-up. Which is kind of funny, considering assisted pull-ups make up a significant portion of my workout routine.
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u/MyAccountWasBanned7 Mar 06 '25
Spoken like someone who desperately needs to get punched in the face.
I'm not saying that violence solves everything, or even most things, but I really think too many people get away with having way too big of an ego and sense of entitlement because no one's ever beat them up for spouting off.
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u/trefoil589 Mar 06 '25
See. This is why I hate any social besides reddit.
That dude's just going to go "pfft, whatever" and go on about his day.
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u/Moikle Mar 08 '25
Also, whats wrong with vanity? Is there something wrong with someone being proud of the body they worked hard for?
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u/KarenAttiah 27d ago
Hi everyone! This is Karen Attiah, the one in the photo. Wild that this made it to reddit! Haha.
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u/Weak-Nerve9252 Mar 06 '25
OMG. I didn't know Karen Attiah had a body like that! I primarily know this woman as a political writer/columnist for The Washington Post and part-time talking head on CNN and other cable news networks. Obviously, I knew she was beautiful in the face, but I did not know what type body her face was attached to. Damn, she looks like she belongs in the WWE! Mind blown.
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u/MouthyMishi Mar 07 '25
Same. I've been following her for years because she's so clever and informed. I had no idea she was also a fighter because I am not good at paying attention.
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u/FrankensteinBionicle Mar 06 '25
Maybe he is the 2021 U.S. Muay Thai Open gold medalist?
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u/Hustle787878 Mar 06 '25
Pretty sure he’d have mentioned that straight away.
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u/FrankensteinBionicle Mar 06 '25
well maybe he's just really good at beating up women, I don't think he'd mention that lol
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Karen Attiah is hopefully better at martial arts than she is at writing columns for the Washington Post. Every time one of her pieces appear there, the comments are nothing but people clowning her latest dumb hot take.
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u/Lord_Mikal 27d ago
I don't want to be "that guy" but I just spent 20 minutes trying to find out what weight class she participated in and I can find absolutely no record of her competing at all. She has pictures of her in a locker room supposedly at the event, but there are literally no records of her winning or even competing. No pictures of her fighting. No articles listing her as a winner.
Even her wikipedia page has absolutely no information on her fighting. (She's a journalist).
If someone wants to link something, please do.
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u/KarenAttiah 26d ago
Yeah, congrats on being “that guy”. I fought jn the 125-132 division in November 2021. A quick google search would have pulled all this up for you.
There are pictures/video of my fight + my team, me wearing the medal on my Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CWsz8mArIOZ/?igsh=MW81M2RiMGZyeXN5aQ==
Photos on X: https://images.app.goo.gl/gwHrY8reJQfeZkas7
And for good measure, here’s a video of me sparring with Superlek in 2022 (I’m at the 3:05 mark) https://youtu.be/qsFy-45AoFY?si=mcYO4heG4dI3I0F7
The internet is not that hard to use.
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u/ExpectedEggs Mar 06 '25
The best comeback would've been, "So you can't fight better than the gold medalist."
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u/robbycakes Mar 08 '25
Silver medalist?
Yeah… you know what’s another word for coming in second in a fight?
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u/DrPhunktacular 29d ago
No, tough guy. Tell us.
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u/robbycakes 29d ago
“Losing”
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u/nirvaan_a7 29d ago
and the words for never being in a fight is “i should shut the fuck up”
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u/robbycakes 29d ago
🤣Really? That’s the stance you’re going to lean into?
“You don’t get to have an opinion on professional fighting if you’re not a professional fighter.”
Gee, I sure got owned just now 🤣
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u/TerrisTheTalible Mar 06 '25
The guy seems like a massive left wing liberal type. What a weird way to react to women just living their lives, while also promoting diversity and tolerance.
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Mar 06 '25
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u/Hustle787878 Mar 06 '25
Oh God, fuck off already
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u/bmwishez Mar 06 '25
Gonna cry?
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u/Hustle787878 Mar 06 '25
Cry about what? You and your racist bullshit? Nah bro, I’m laughing at the fact that your big bad self can’t handle the possibility of a Black woman beating you six ways to Sunday.
Again, with as much gusto as I can summon, fuck right off
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u/chaboongus Mar 06 '25
Dang I didn't know they allowed people on gear to compete in muay Thai tournaments.
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Mar 06 '25
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
No, some of us guys who work out still find it intimidating. Sexy, but intimidating.
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u/Wayfinity Mar 06 '25
Intimidating CAN be sexy ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
Yes, yes it can. But I’m 6’3”, so it’s almost impossible to find.
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u/Wayfinity Mar 06 '25
Win for the short kings lol
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
The only tall guy advantage I have is reaching stuff.
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u/Wayfinity Mar 06 '25
You wouldn't have been able to water board that out of me!
The secret to most women no matter how attractive they are (depending on their attitude and ego) is being relaxed and humour and being genuinely interested in her and what she had to say conversationally.
If you can make her laugh, genuinely laugh, you're most of the way there my friend.
Also most of the time it doesn't matter how you look physically as long as you have good hygiene, dress nicely, are a genuinely nice person and respect people.
Just as an example check out who Christina Hendrix's's first husband was. She's WAY out of his league lol.
Just don't put any pressure on yourself and if/when it happens let it happen. Oh and don't rely on those stupid apps. Go to libraries, or markets or whatever your places of interest maybe. Just don't act desperate or clingy.
We've got you. Fist bump
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u/Toothless-In-Wapping Mar 06 '25
I’ve been waterboarded; I would admit anything to stop that.
I always wondered about Geoffrey Arend and how he got her.My issue is I’m too depressed and I live with my parents.
There’s also the issue of my mom being a vocal size queen.Thanks for the kind words (and the reminder of Christina Hendricks), but I haven’t even heard someone say they love me or been kissed or touched in a romantic way in 36 years, I doubt the next 32 years will be different (I’m assuming that’s when my mom will die and she’s the only reason I’m living).
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u/Pandoras_opinion Mar 06 '25
In Portuguese we have an expression that fits that guy perfectly: if you remain silent you’re a poet.