r/exjw • u/CanadianExJw • 1d ago
WT Can't Stop Me This is how dumb the Resurrection and Paradise Earth idea is....
There have been approx, 108 billion humans since the start of humanity. The earth can sustain 8-10 billion humans. So if there are 108 billion humans resurrected, where are they to live? That's over 900% more that the earth can handle. Even if all the oceans where made into land that will give you apprx 24 billion more people space to live. (Water is 71%, land is 29%) Still 75 billion humans short.
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u/EyesRoaming 1d ago edited 1d ago
JW's wouldn't accept that there have been 100+ billion people because they believe that Humans are only 6,050 years old.
Whatever their answer would be it would involve good God magic 🤣
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u/Solid_Technician 1d ago
Yeah they believe a total of maybe 20 billion have existed .
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u/sportandracing 1d ago
How?
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u/Solid_Technician 1d ago
Just messed up JW math.
Adam had a few million kids, then the flood, then Noah had a few billion. By that logic only about 20 billion would have been in existence in total.
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u/FootEmergency389 And little by little she found the courage for it all. 1d ago
It’s okay, my mum has already solved this dilemma. Jehovahs going to make another planet inhabitable and we will move there. He will keep making planets for us until we inhabit the entire solar system ✨☺️✨ This is the woman that educated me in my most vulnerable baby years people.
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u/LittleMissMagic70 Listen Obey and be Stressed 1d ago
Our moms might share a brain cell. My mom once gave me a detailed explanation of how God could create another body for us on another planet. Then put us to sleep on earth so he could transfer our soul into our new bodies on the new earth. Then ironically when the movie Avatar came out, it made her uncomfortable because it was spiritistic. 🤣
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u/FootEmergency389 And little by little she found the courage for it all. 1d ago
Lmao 😂 ironic isn’t it?
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u/LittleMissMagic70 Listen Obey and be Stressed 1d ago
Off topic but is your profile picture fanart from The Cruel Prince? I love that book.
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u/FootEmergency389 And little by little she found the courage for it all. 1d ago
Hehe yes it is 😆 Carden lives rent free
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u/LittleMissMagic70 Listen Obey and be Stressed 1d ago
Saaammmmeee. I read The Stolen Heir duology just for a glimpse of adult Carden.
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u/FootEmergency389 And little by little she found the courage for it all. 1d ago
Oh man I haven’t read it yet 😆 I’ve only read the trilogy
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u/Klutzer_Munitions Sparlock's Apprentice 1d ago
I'd love it if she could show me the scripture where she got this
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u/FootEmergency389 And little by little she found the courage for it all. 1d ago
Bruh she couldn’t even tell you what 1914 is based on.
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u/unshackled_by_truth Indoctrination is child abuse 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is the woman that educated me in my most vulnerable baby years people.
Hence my flair
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u/Ronburgundysaidso 1d ago
I can see that happening. How do you know there is not other civilizations somewhere out there?
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u/FootEmergency389 And little by little she found the courage for it all. 1d ago
Oh dear sweet Ron, you comment on all my stuff, I’m tired of all old men named Ron. All 3 elders that did my judicial committee and baptism questions were named Ron. Also got choked by an old man named Ron on carts once. Never met one with any sense yet.
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u/letmeinfornow 1d ago
The response is always some form of 'deus ex machina'; god magic will fix it all.
It's Valhalla or the Celestial Kingdom or the Duat or Jannah or reincarnation or the cycle of samsara....on and on and on and on.
Everyone wants to live forever. It's all bullshit.
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u/DoSubstances 1d ago
Tbf tho, with the cycle of samsara the goal is to leave and escape samsara. Existing forever too stressful 😂😂💯
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u/Key_Cauliflower_4932 1d ago
There is a silly explanation in the Insight book (under the heading "Resurrection" on the basis of 20 billion people which seems ridiculously low. But of course now the Society have opened up the prospect of aborted / miscarried babies etc being resurrected so goodness knows what the figure is , let alone that all houses will be large lake side properties with huge gardens , according to their pictures of paradise.
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u/OwnChampionship4252 1d ago
Well, if for them life begins at conception, then all those miscarried and aborted babies definitely must be resurrected. Or doesn’t god love them just because Stephen Lett said so?
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u/StyleExotic5676 1d ago
Totally agree with you but when I was in I didn't even think about the nitty gritty details. Those pictures of mountains of fruit, sunshine and skippity hoppity animals frollicking 🙄🙄 waking up is mind blowing, who's going to be assigned sewer duty down the drains , the water systems satellite systems, so building houses, running electrical systems along with preaching to the resurrected. Also remember David Splaines talk saying that you would accept, happily where you would be assigned to. Paradise my arse 🤮😡😂
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u/JuanHosero1967 1d ago
Easy
Jehovah will resurrect them just to kill most of them again for not accepting bible studies on an iPad by a mansion at the lake.
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u/JuanHosero1967 1d ago
There will be waterfalls too.
Lots of waterfalls to ruin your hearing for Jehovah to repair so you can ruin it again by living next to a waterfall
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u/halfeatentoenail 1d ago
Wait, do we have stats on how many people can live on the earth now? I had always heard that it's not that the earth is overpopulated, resources are just poorly distributed.
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u/AccomplishedNobody43 1d ago
One PIMI friend of mine once told me that we don’t know what Jehovah has planned for us in the future and that maybe other planets may become habitable.
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u/jukaa007 1d ago
Dude, you don't even talk about the children and babies who died... Who will take care of them? There would be five children for each family or we will have giant orphanages. Or will they be resurrected as adults?
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u/Writtenreview222 1d ago
Going back 40 years ago there was a family who were marked as weak as water in da truff. The father had this opinion & voiced the Jah would inhabit other planets ,,,,,,,,,, needless to say they were shunned & then marked as apostate once they stopped attending altogether
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u/painefultruth76 Deus Vult! 1d ago
Literally written in some of the old literature, concurrent with man cannot escape the bounds of Earth.. then Gagarin, but but but, he couldn't live up there for longer than a couple of days, man will never accomplish walking in the moon.....
There's always some exception for anything that doesn't align with the fantasy con these guys are pitching.
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u/ValkyrieQu33n Fruitcake to Fruity 1d ago
Wow I must have missed this as a kid since I wanted to spend some time after resurrection exploring the galaxy. Little me would have been crushed.
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u/painefultruth76 Deus Vult! 19h ago
I told a hippie elder off once, before I found the source of his Amish Paradise.<wish I had woken up then...>
Told him some of us were going to build a cruise ship to the galaxy with a portion of water earthly and air, and farm in space. Should have seen the look on horse and buggy dummy's face.
I used the scripture, " fulfill their hearts desire." With the fact I had farmed, and plowed and had zero interest in looking at the ass end of an ass for 12 hours a day... just because he grew up on pavement and I was barefoot didn't mean my paradise was verboten...
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u/Ok_Razzmatazz_5428 1d ago
My mom had this same theory. I asked this question at a young age.. maybe 12 or 13. She explained that Jah could create other planets that we could expand to. She couldn’t tell me how we’d get there. Just that he would make sure it all worked out and I shouldn’t need to ask questions. 🤣
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u/Super_Translator480 1d ago
It’s almost like Bible writers had no idea that God wouldn’t save them before they all died.
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u/West-Ad-1532 1d ago
Errr. Half of the world's population lives on less than 1% of the Earth's landmass, and humans have modified less than 20% of it for living or supporting activities such as agriculture, manufacturing, and logistics.
Come on, do better...
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u/10yearsaslave 19h ago
Yeah there was an article in the National Geographic I believe that I found when I was guzzling the Kool-Aide. It highlighted how all humans that ever lived could easily fit in a small area. I remember it said that every human alive at the time standing shoulder to shoulder could easily fit in Los Angeles. Confirmation bias, this was all I needed to enhance my faith. The earth would be blessed and there would be plenty of food. I still want to kick myself in the nuts for ever believing in this stupid shit but when you are indoctrinated from before you can even talk what are you going to do?
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u/West-Ad-1532 18h ago
The World Economic Forum has conducted extensive research on this topic. As a holder of economics degrees, I find the distribution of resources to be a fascinating subject matter. The answers to these problems are as of yet unknown...
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u/northernseal1 1d ago
I remember some ideas widely circulated amongst jehovites that there were more people living now than have ever lived. If 99% are murdered , there's lots of space for those resurrected. That was their line. Not sure if that was ever jehovite Canon or not.
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u/Actualvamp 1d ago
I argued about this with my dad when I was 10 years old. He told me if Jehovah has to he will make another planet. Then I said “how will we get to the other plant to see our loved ones……” lol
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u/throwaway61125 21h ago
this is the reason why i genuinely think reincarnation exists. there’s no way literally 108 billion people exists since the start of humanity. i’d say it’s just a waste of existence if we are literally have been given one life.
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u/No-Card2735 17h ago
Like the Deluge account, the logistical problems keep stacking up until all you can do is throw your hands up in exasperation.
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u/EconomistExtra4158 1d ago
The sheer reality of the human population, coupled with our limited global space and resources, clearly demonstrates that the idea of a massive wave of dead humans coming back to life is nothing more than a fantasy—and a terrifying one at that.
PIMIs and the misguided logic of the GB are consistently shattered when science provides concrete evidence that contradicts their delusions. This is precisely why higher education is dismissed and critical thinking is relentlessly attacked in favor of what they label as “apostate reasoning.” It's time to wake up, people!
It infuriates me!
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u/Careless_Asparagus39 1d ago
The problem you have is this, it's all speculation. You have some so-called experts saying man has been on the earth 50,000 years, others say 200,000 years and still others 300,000 years and so they calculate from these hypothesis.
But in reality, human history only goes back to 3500 BCE, which means we humans have only been on the planet at most 6 to 7 thousand years, according to recorded history. And if you look at the calendars, the same approximate figures emerge. Even the Chinese calendar only started counting years in 4637 BCE.
Both history and the Nations calendars all agree with biblical chronology of approx 7000 years.
Regarding population , I have seen numbers ranging from 100 to 120 Billion, but all these are highly speculative.
Anyway, why are you so concerned with these numbers? Seriously, you think the supreme being of the universe cannot count? He told Adam and Eve to fill the earth, not overfill it.
Finally, how many billions of empty planets are there in the universe? you think they will remain empty? You have a lot to learn along with millions of others.
"Eye has not seen nor ear, has heard the wonders Yehovah has in store for his people"
Get populating!......😇
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u/CanadianExJw 1d ago
Man made God in our image, the Bible is a made up story book. The paradise didn't come in 1914,1925,175 and before the Millennium. False hope from false prophets.
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u/Careless_Asparagus39 1d ago edited 1d ago
You're entitled to your opinions, but it doesn't make it a fact. Of course, Watchtower is a false prophet. All organised religion is false. They are the trappings of men, just like political parties. The Bible, though, is not religion. Whether you believe it or not is a personal matter. I believe the bible because I have proved it to myself academically through secular sources and through scientific studies of physics, quantum mechanics, and molecular biology.
There is no way that the universe and planet Earth, with its teaming diversity of life, came by chance. As a matter of fact, it is mathematically impossible for this to happen.
You are in a matrix of deciet. It is everywhere. You just have to navigate your way through it all. Even in academia, there is intellectual dishonesty, particularly since Covid. A critical mind is imperative.
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u/OwnChampionship4252 1d ago
I don’t see a problem that a little god-magic couldn’t solve.