KJ monogram 4th iteration

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[u/LelouchViMajesti]

this one is good. Is it readable without knowing i doubt it but def a « oh » moment when you see it. I feel it has a nice dynamic and is well balanced. I don’t know what field you are in but this screams luxury and retro graphic/artsy to me. the vertical lines are not needed in my opinion, let the stamp have its own impact

[u/0_aRtSy_FaRtSy_0]

The lines on the bottom corners aren’t lining up properly. It is also still very hard to read as KJ in my opinion

[u/0_aRtSy_FaRtSy_0 → u/[deleted]]

I don’t know if you’re actually in the graphic design field, but this kind of defensiveness, rudeness, and inability to take criticism is going to get you absolutely nowhere. The lines literally don’t line up in the bottom corners. I don’t care that you “disagree” with my “opinion” when if you look at it it’s not correct.

[u/ShaniFox → u/[deleted]]

It looks better lining up like in your comment. That it doesn’t follow the grid is an immediate eye catch in the op version.

[u/ballinboi3546]

Its a good concept but will likely require many reiterations before coming to a functional mass appeal.

It is still very hard to read KJ without knowing that is the intention. Partially this is due to shared paths. The crossbar forming the upper arm of the K reads more as a a tilted path than a connected form. As the J reconnects with the bottom leg of the K it forms one sweeping motion which almost can read in the negative space as a rotated P or D depending on how you read it first. I'd suggest taking the design and working on strengthening the readability of the J curve and K leg. The rest should fall in place if you can get those legible as separate forms.

The best way to iterate things like this is to layout the true shapes with no additions so just K and J and squint from afar. See if the shapes actually work in this orientation. If not you may want to try the lettering cropped rotated or at a diagonal as an example.

Good luck

[u/ballinboi3546 → u/[deleted]]

I'm sure the culmination of other feedback may have altered your view of my response but this is general designer to designer critique. I have no reason to personally attack you, nor do I have time to do the process for you. Squinting is meant to visualize shapes at scale and how they mesh together. Something like this in its current form when scaled down wouldn't have the same visibility as the logo blown up on a phone or desktop screen.

Your choice to continue to iterate or not is your decision as a designer. Any logo can be iterated millions of times or just once. I have no knowledge of your prior iterations or work portfolio so my critiques were very much surface level. However, design critique often feels very personal as you have spent a lot of time and thought getting to where you are. Understand "most" designers do this with the intention of seeing your best result not from a position of attack. Take feedback for what it is, feedback. Try not to take it so personally and look at things from a different offered perspective.

Take care

[u/ballinboi3546 → u/[deleted]]

I understand and that's what I eluded to in my comment I get it. The thing thats important to know however is that at the end of the day feedback from designers and feedback from regular viewers should just be taken at face value. You shouldn't ingest feedback and make changes based on what people are telling you but rather take these as points to explore yourself and determine if it aligns with your vision. You're the designer at the end of the day and many designers myself included may have varying stylistic or technical bias. I myself am very minimalist but orderly. I like things that geometrically flow well and are driven by an underlying structure so my feedback may be influenced by that. Someone who likes ornate designs may ask for more flourishes and strokes, etc.

My point being is in design anyone may critique your design. Don't let that drive you away from pushing the concept. My suggestion would be to do another round. Don't take comments for changes and look at the common critique points. Look at it from your perspective and see why these may be points of consideration and use that to push the design. My biggest piece of advice is it sounds like you need to step away from the design for a while. We often gain tunnel vision when processing changes back to back and it will only benefit you to take some time away to come back with a fresh set of eyes.

[u/olookitslilbui → u/[deleted]]

Why post on a graphic design sub if you’re going to get upset when people provide feedback? Also since you didn’t actually provide links for context of your previous iterations, for some commenters this will be their first time seeing it—they’re not gonna go digging in your profile to see what else you tried.

This user said to squint because as designers it can be difficult to see what other people are seeing, when you’ve been so close to the screen working on a project. Squinting helps identify legibility issues. However as a designer, if your design requires the viewer to squint, that’s an issue. Because nobody is going to do that. People don’t read unless they want to, so logos and icons like this need to be identifiable at a glance.