r/hbomberguy • u/Worldly-Many-9074 • 18m ago
Wendigoon is full of shit, hereâs why.
This is an improved version of my other post.
This post will be a tad bit longer than usual.
What I want to do throughout this post is to describe the many issues I have with a video by the youtuber wendigoon, specifically his video called âthe conspiracy theory icebergâ.Â
What attracted me to making this was the many previous issues I've had with him, but hitherto all ranged exclusively to plagiarism.
 this one is about certain issues he has factually, especially around conspiracy theories, cryptids, etc etc.Â
Though this isnât his iceberg and thus he didnât make it, you could sufficiently blame on the creator of the iceberg and absolve wendigoon of guilt which would be fair. But, the fact that wendigoon never bothers to fact check these makes it scummy as hell and frankly lazy.
 This is by no means a complete âdebunkingâ of all of his claims, mainly because the video is 9 fucking hours long, and i donât have the time for that, so i will only talk about some of things in the video here and there.Â
Some of these conspiracy theories are either way too deep for me to get into and waste my time on or aren't in my frame of expertise due my greater fascination with historical and pseudo-historical and archeological subjects.
Throughout I will provide timestamps and certain quotes throughout the video will be given as references. There will also be sources given when heâs incorrect about the things heâs talking about.
4:47 âatlantisâÂ
In this he states there were records of an island all the way back in ancient greece between athens and sparta.Â
The main issue at fault is this statement is misleading at best and horseshit at worst. The principal and really only source we have on this comes from Plato's dialogues on timaeus and critias.Â
In these dialogues the aforementioned characters discuss the existence of the island of atlantis, a beautiful island that existed more than 9000 before the birth of solon, which would place it in the 9000s bce.Â
â Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia⌠and then, Solon, your country shone forth, in the excellence of her virtue and strength, among all mankind. She was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenesâ.Â
(timaeus 26, jowett)
The date of this is already raises eyebrows, in addition to his claim that the city of Athens somehow was the most preeminent in virtue strength, and somehow for athens, military skills.
From a historical standpoint the existence of atlantis at this point in time would be low to say the least. In addition to the non-existence of anything resembling a source whatsoever before plato reduces atlantis to an allegory for the times.
SOURCES:Â https://www.britannica.com/topic/Atlantis-legendary-island
Critias (Jowett) - Wikisource, the free online library)
Timaeus (Jowett) - Wikisource, the free online library)Â
13:00 âthe mad gasser of mattoonâ just a short note but notice how later in the video he somehow treats nuns meowing together with greater probability than people suffering from a gas leak.
1:11:36 âThe road to rootaâ This was a comic made by the federal government to explain market economics to children and younger people. However, a man by the name of bix weir claims that It is secretly attempting to âdestroy the financial banking powers that have secretly controlled all aspects of our lives for hundreds of yearsâ. In general he Is against the banking system and wants to return to the gold standard.
This is patently bullshit due to him taking a childrenâs comic too seriously and believing that only he had noticed the âsecretâ. After doing some digging on who he is, I discovered his âinterestsâ. by that he was hawking crypto currency, and spreading bullshit about gold and silver.
Heâs essentially a grifter for crypto, despite what it says on his bio. I also found some posts on reddit from a few years ago hinting at his not so stellar reputation.
Sources: https://www.roadtoroota.com/public/main.cfm
https://www.reddit.com/r/theta_network/comments/s0kknz/ill_have_what_bix_weir_is_smoking/
1:15:21 âhitler Escaped inside the earthâ Jeez fucking louise, do i even have to say anything about this?, should i say that earth physically canât be hollow because the outer shell would collapse in on itself due to fucking gravity.
The conspiracy tells that the germans managed to dig a hole to agartha via super secret tunnels in berlin that nobody has ever seen or talked about before. I couldnât find the originator of this conspiracy.
Sources: https://futurism.com/what-if-earth-really-were-hollow-video
I highly recommend you check out this essay: https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-hollow-earth-hypothesis-illuminates-falsifiable-science by joel frohlich
1:17:24 âDMT Beingsâ This occurs when people are high on a drug called Dimethyltryptamine and claim to see weird alien elf-like creatures in their hallucinations.
It should be noted that DMT is one of the major ingredients in amerindian shamanic decoction, for example ayahuasca (âvine of the deadâ). Not many studies have yet been done on this drug yet and remains uncertain. It is also quite rare among other drugs, with only 0,7% use of it in the united states.Â
According to Dr David Luke, associate professor of psychology at greenwich university and an author on books on DMT encounters:
âEncounters are really common⌠you get them more often than not with a high dose of DMT... there is a wide degree of diversity but there are also some recurrent themes that tend to pop up more than would seem purely random. Among the most common are 'little people', be they elves, dwarves or pixiesâ
Another common occurrence are mantis-like creatures.
So, whatâs the explanation for this?, One is that it stimulates the brain that gives rise to visual associations, though we are yet unsure of the reasons.
SOURCES: https://www.iflscience.com/why-do-people-see-elves-and-other-entities-when-they-smoke-dmt-62234 By benjamin taub.Â
1:18:47: âthuleâ refers to an alleged island common on several maps common throughout the middle ages and ancient greece. Â
Wikipedia credits the first ever source of this to an ancient Greek man named Pytheas who wrote about geographic discoveries at length. Like many other ancient authors his work remains lost to the sands of time though his work was quoted and used by other scholars during and after his time.
The funny thing about him after I researched other texts by fellow scholars like Strabo and Polybius was his less than stellar reputation among his fellow authors. For example, certain choice quotes make it clear and evident:
âand also to all those false statements made by Pytheas the Massalian regarding the country along the ocean, wherein he uses as a screen his scientific knowledge of astronomy and mathematicsâ Strabo, geography, book 7 chapter 3.Â
"Pytheas, who has given us the history of Thule, is known to be a man upon whom no reliance can be placed, and other writers who have seen Britain and Ierne, although they tell us of many small islands round Britain, make no mention whatever of Thuleâ
The only authors we know of that talk about him speak of him in harshly critical terms.
What remains most probable is that thule is the result of confusion surrounding either the shetland islands or the orkneys.
Sources: Strabo, Geography, Book 7, chapter 3
Lost Continents: The Atlantis Theme in History, Science, and Literature by L Sprague De camp. page 54.
1:19:28 âdie glockeâ This is bullshit at face value due to the general date of the evidence provided.Â
The first ever claim of this originates with an author named nick cook who used a polish author named igor witkowskiâs work called âprawda o wunderwaffeâ, or âthe truth about wonder weaponsâ
The author is just a plain conspiracy theorist and professional bullshit artist who uses a science fiction novel.
SOURCES:Â The Story behind Die Glocke | And Why I Hate This Conspiracy Theory a good youtuber that i like.
2:36:05 âkap dwaâÂ
According to the wendigoon and âaccording to legendâ (whatever that means) it was a giant that the spaniards discovered in 1673 in patagonia in argentina, whom they tied to the mast of the ship and eventually broke loose and killed four sailors. Later it would be exhibited in england as a horror freak show. These four sailors would actually help me in researching it, because I found the article when searching âfour sailorsâ in google.
The main peculiarities that I find, is his seemingly on purpose treatment of these things as if they were certain facts. His only âdisclaimerâ about it is that he says âaccording to legendâ. The actual evidence for this is stretched to say the least or bullshit at worst.
The article I found that mentioned that these four sailors were killed soon thereafter states âReports varied wildly on the giantâs heights. Some sources describe them as six feet, others up to 12 feet. Could it be that these people were simply taller than your average sailor? Historians note that Europeans during the Age of Discovery rarely exceeded 5â˛5âł.
Sailors werenât exactly known for their factually accurate descriptions.
an incongruity is the name âkap dwaâ, which is malay for âtwo headsâ a tad bit strange for something supposedly coming from patagonia dont you think?.
Brown university also states â Kap-Dwa is both historical legend and a hoax, similar to other figures of "rouge taxidermy" such as P. T. Barnum's "Fiji Mermaid" and the "Jackalope"
SOURCES:Â
https://explorersweb.com/exploration-mysteries-the-giants-of-patagonia/Â
2:37:00 âcat nunsâ.Â
This was an alleged case of mass hysteria where the nuns of a french convent started to collectively meow and were only stopped by the town putting a stop to it.
The first thing we need is some context on thia: after researching (also know as a google search) i found the general source of this, a wikipedia article called âList of mass panic casesâ.Â
After searching through the history of the wikipedia article and found the original addition of it at 21:32, 19 July 2015. The source was âMass Delusions and Hysteriasâ by the skeptical inquirer.
The story was cited from a medical history book named âthe Epidemics of the middle agesâ Which was published in 1844. This book cites it source from another one as follows.
âI have read in a good medical work that a nun, in a very large convent in France, began to mew like a cat; shortly afterwards other nuns also mewed. At last all the nuns mewed together every day at a certain time for several hours together. The whole surrounding Christian neighbourhood heard, with equal chagrin and astonishment, this daily cat-concert, which did not cease until all the nuns were informed that a company of soldiers were placed by the police before the entrance of the convent, and that they were provided with rods, and would continue whipping them until they promised not to mew any moreâ Â
Zimmermann on Solitude, Vol. II. Leipsig. 1784. â Transl. note.
This all seems fair and good until you read some of the sentences before this such as:
 âThe imaginations of women are always more excitable than those of men, and they are therefore susceptible of every folly when they lead a life of strict seclusion, and their thoughts are constantly turned inwards upon themselvesâ ibid.Â
Ahh, 18th century medical sexism, truly the most trustworthy of medical sources. âi have read in a good medical workâ isnât exactly the greatest citation.
Weâve basically reached a historical dead end and canât search further, mainly due to the authorâs reference to this mysterious medical manuscript that we donât know about. It could have been that this really existed, or they fabricated it to prove their point about âthe imaginations of womenâ or something like that.
This wasnât his most egregious of mistakes, just one that I personally knew from Sam oânella.
SOURCES:Â https://skepticalinquirer.org/2000/05/mass-delusions-and-hysterias/
https://www.curiousarchive.com/the-murky-truth-about-the-meowing-french-nuns/Â