r/interestingasfuck • u/Red_Lotus_Alchemist • 2d ago

/r/all A Chinese earthquake rescue team deployed drones to light up the night and aid search and rescue operations after the devastating 7.7 magnitude earthquake in Myanmar.

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u/ChiemseeViking 2d ago

You know that most of the money that is „going“ into Ukraine is spend in the US, right? The ammunition that is send into Ukraine are old stockpiles. And every explosiv has an expectation date. So they are eight used (send them to Ukraine) or have to be disposed of in an expensive process. And the the stockpiles need new ammunitions. And who is producing those? Yes, Americans. So more jobs for Americans.

And on the other hand China is looking at this and takes notes. If we abandon Ukraine, a country Europa has a easy, direct logic links in form of rail and road, will we even bother with helping Taiwan, a country half an ocean away?

And China intends to take Taiwan. And yes, that’ll be bad for us because Taiwan is a important producer of electronic cips, essential in all our electronic devices.

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u/InvidiousPlay 2d ago

One difference is that US conservatives have decided they don't care about Russia any more but that China is the big enemy to be feared, so they'll care a lot more about Taiwan than they will Ukraine.

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u/7Hobbes 2d ago

I said lives first for a reason.

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u/ChiemseeViking 2d ago

Who‘s live? American? Or is it Ukraines lifes on the line because they are fighting to preserve their freedom from the Moscow dictatorship? If we abandon Ukraine, they will keep fighting, but will die in great numbers.

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u/TwoplyWatson 2d ago

pro chinese argument seems stuck on iraq/afghan.

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u/Napoleons_Peen 2d ago

They’re already dying in great numbers when you have to kidnap children and drunks off the street to fight and the average Ukrainian soldier age is now in mid-40s. They’re dying so Blackrock can buy more of their resources.

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u/ChiemseeViking 2d ago

The average age of Ukrainian soldiers is higher than you would normally expect, because the current conscription age is set higher on purpose. They do this in order to protect the younger generations, that didn’t jet had kids.

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u/Napoleons_Peen 2d ago

Hooray more money to the military industrial complex! This outdated bull shit that “war good for economy” is such fucking nonsense. Y’all are clinging to a WWII era philosophy that hasn’t been an actual thing since WWII. War helps the rich get richer, that’s it. If we stopped supplying Ukraine, it wouldn’t even be a blip on the economic radar.

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u/ChiemseeViking 2d ago

Well, I would like to live in a wold without conflict and wars. But we don’t! And those without swords can still die upon them.

There is no pace without weapons. There are always those without scruples who will try to subdue others. Look at country, that are neutral. Neutrality means you have no enemy per say, but it also means you have no allies to help you. So countries like Switzerland, Sweden and Finnland are armed to the teeth.

And don’t forget, Ukraine had nukes, which it gave up in return for security guarantees. And look where they are now.

So call it a necessary evil, but, sadly, we will always need weapons that pose a sufficient threat.