r/interestingasfuck • u/Red_Lotus_Alchemist • 2d ago

/r/all A Chinese earthquake rescue team deployed drones to light up the night and aid search and rescue operations after the devastating 7.7 magnitude earthquake in Myanmar.

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u/psychodogcat 2d ago

It's kind of true that eventually, these technologies do end up saving lives more though. As warfare tech gets more dangerous, people are less likely to use it because their enemies also have the same tech. Mutually assured destruction is a hell of a drug.

However, the period immediately after invention is always the worst. See Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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u/Little_Head6683 1d ago

The MAD concept only applies to nuclear warfare. Wars have only become more lethal.

Just look at the devastation to cities in modern conflicts. The utter destruction of civilian areas is a hallmark of modern conflict.

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u/Habanero-Jalapeno 1d ago

Exactly. People are so out of touch here jeez but they must give their 2 cents on everything.

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u/tallsmallboy44 1d ago

Ancient armies literally used to burn entire cities to the ground. What are you talking about?

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u/Little_Head6683 1d ago

Just because it happened doesn't mean it always happened. Or even often. They had to make a deliberate choice to raze a city. Which would be done to send a message, revenge or as part of a genocide. And it would happen AFTER the battle, not because of the battle.

Nowadays the utter ruination of a battlesite is a given.

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u/Traditional-Key4824 2d ago

Don't tell this guy there is this thing that is called arm race.

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u/Grimour 2d ago

LoL. You do realise you are talking about the Russian army here. Those who still use ancient technology, because they are still using cannon fodder tactics. They are racing to their graves, not to advance anything.

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u/Traditional-Key4824 2d ago

While the Russians is certainly undersupplied and using outdated equipments in most fronts, their drone warfare tactics and equipments only stepped up during the war. Are they still behind? Yes. But are they better than the start of the war? In drones, yes, other, maybe.

And it's not only the Russians, every single nations watching the war had begun their drone programs after seeing the effectiveness of them.

I'm not solely referring to the Ukrain-Russo war. And arrogant people like you are the reason the Chinese is catching up.

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u/Grimour 2d ago

Of course that is the way of our kind. I would much rather fly a drone though than run head first into bullets.

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u/Vasyh 2d ago

It's funny how Russia is still advancing with only shovels (if you check what really happens on the ground after 2023).

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u/Little_Head6683 1d ago

Stop believing the false narrative. Stop underestimating your opponent. Russia has been a festering corpse since the fall of the USSR. But they're also in a war economy currently.

They're still a massive threat and responsible for 100.000s of deaths by now. The West is currently studying modern peer-to-peer warfare. Russia is actually fighting it. Ukraine might be better than them at it, but Russia just flattens everything they encounter with the massive shell and drone production they've got now.

The destruction in Ukraine is more concentrated than during the 2nd world war.

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u/Grimour 1d ago

Sure they are fighting it - and losing heavy losses all day, everyday. They aren't even making modern tanks because they are also just fodder. It's one big Russian nesting doll.

Russia is all out of their massive second world war bomb storage. They are bleeding hard now and the only reason that scum shelling tactic was working, was because no one was willing to give Ukraine anything that was able to strike back at easy stand still missile launchers..that was a horrible time to witness them being helplessly torn little by little.

Russia flattens everything it encounters huh? Sure haven't flattened Ukraine.

What a random WW fact, that means nothing when condensed to such a degree.

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u/Poohstrnak 2d ago edited 13h ago

Hey now, they half like 4 almost 5th gen fighters with exposed wood screws, no S ducts, and a radar cross section the size of a whale shark

They have bleeding edge tech!

I wonder if no one knew I was joking. All of the things I listed are profoundly not 5th gen.

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u/xXTurdleXx 2d ago

damn Japan actually somehow rewrote themselves into the victim. those nukes saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives, because the Japanese literally refused to surrender. japan raped and killed more people in a single Chinese city than both bombs combined, yet somehow are victims because they were so insane they would rather suicide their entire country than give an unconditional surrender

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u/WorstPossibleOpinion 2d ago

Japan's surrender had nothing do with the nukes, this is well established historical fact, they were holding out on if they could surrender to the soviets believing they'd get more reasonable terms from them. In fact the emperor and his council didn't pay much attention to the reports of cities being destroyed by the nukes, it was not a concern to them.

The nukes were used against Japan purely because the US had them and not because of any practical purpose.

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u/Little_Head6683 1d ago

They used the bombs to send a message to the world (especially the USSR) as well as to speed up the surrender deals with Japan.

Russia was advancing through Manchuria at breakneck speed. They knew that the USSR wished to annex as much of the territory they 'liberated' as possible. The US wanted them to have as little leverage as possible.

Relations between the West and the USSR were already souring rapidly before the war had even ended.

I'm not excusing it, by the way. The bombs should've never been dropped.

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u/xXTurdleXx 1d ago

yeah and Japan never should have raped and murdered 100x the people in China/Korea either :)

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u/Little_Head6683 1d ago

Yeah. No they shouldnt have done that. Thank you for your insight!

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u/xXTurdleXx 1d ago

well established historical fact

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate_over_the_atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

yeah sure, there was totally no reason at all

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u/WorstPossibleOpinion 1d ago

Well established true facts are often the cause of debate. Are we to give up vaccines because they are debated by people in bad faith?

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u/Honkerstonkers 2d ago

I actually visited the museum in Hiroshima today. Saw the charred toys and children’s clothes. The pictures of the utter destruction, the horrible burns on people slowly dying.

How many of these children and pensioners were sacking Nanjing?

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u/xXTurdleXx 1d ago

It's crazy that you care more about the thousands of children who died in Hiroshima as unintentional targets, rather than the millions of children killed in China as part of an intentional genocide, simply because Japan cried more about it after the war ended

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u/Honkerstonkers 1d ago

The children of Hiroshima were definitely intentional targets. The Americans knew what they were doing. You make it sound like killing Japanese children is ok because soldiers committed atrocities in China. Killing children is never ok.