r/investing • u/waitbutwhycc • 2d ago

Most Predictable Drop of All Time

I posted here right after the first crash in February “Don’t buy the dip, this is more 1929 vibes than 2001.” In response I got almost 100 replies telling me not to time the market, before it got removed by mods for being a “question” (it was not).

Literally all Trump is doing is exactly what he promised on the campaign. And virtually every economist knew it would cause a recession. Even after the crash yesterday he doubled down, saying he might add tariffs on semiconductors and pharmaceuticals too. He is simply trying to remove us from global markets, and it’s working!

Buy the dip once people start actually pushing back against Trump - no real reason to buy before that point.

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u/VyRe40 2d ago

Piggybacking to say there's a distinct possibility that the US loses its position as the top economic power of the world over the next 4 years. We are only 3 months in, and 1 quarter away from a recession. If the harm to the economy is irreparable, who knows how markets could change, but there's no guarantee that anyone will make their money back in time for retirement. On top of the risk of folks losing jobs in a recession or depression - including middle class people who are more likely to invest.

Is any of this guaranteed? Nope. At the moment however, investing is a risk. Do with that what you will.

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u/UpDown 2d ago

> distinct possibility that the US loses its position as the top economic power of the world over the next 4 years.

There is not. The majority of spending in the world is happening in the US. You will have to say who will become the top economic power in the world and why. You won't be able to come to a reasonable answer to that

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u/ImNoAlbertFeinstein 2d ago

oh please. China is a close number two. EU could become no. 2 by default.

did you miss the part about consumers spending more for less. we will consume less.

ask chat ai to name the top reasons for US global leadership

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u/Sir_Bumcheeks 2d ago

China's wealth is dependend on the US... if they fall they fall together.

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u/ImNoAlbertFeinstein 2d ago

they fall together doesnt help us.

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u/Ok_Cricket1393 4m ago

Kind of helps us. It’s mutually assured destruction. A global recession is terrible and most people live cushy lives. I think most countries would be willing to play Trump’s game and shave some off the top if it meant they didn’t slide into a recession. I bet they come to some middle ground and Trump pulls back.

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u/VyRe40 2d ago

Except no one can, or should, be able to say who would become the next top economy. The EU or China, in theory, but it's all speculation. They may even share the top spot between them. The issue is, anything can happen in economic chaos, and the geopolitics matter - the nations of the world are moving to cut out America and trade with each other at the moment.

Long story short, not a single person in here can guarantee that things will return to business as usual if the admin stays on this path. And I'm not even saying that we WILL definitively lose the top spot either. Chaos is chaos.

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u/ShesJustAGlitch 2d ago

People don’t want to hear it because that repeat the same “well history says x” guess what, this is a new thing, history is consistent until it isn’t