r/investing • u/waitbutwhycc • 2d ago

Most Predictable Drop of All Time

I posted here right after the first crash in February “Don’t buy the dip, this is more 1929 vibes than 2001.” In response I got almost 100 replies telling me not to time the market, before it got removed by mods for being a “question” (it was not).

Literally all Trump is doing is exactly what he promised on the campaign. And virtually every economist knew it would cause a recession. Even after the crash yesterday he doubled down, saying he might add tariffs on semiconductors and pharmaceuticals too. He is simply trying to remove us from global markets, and it’s working!

Buy the dip once people start actually pushing back against Trump - no real reason to buy before that point.

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u/shokolokobangoshey 2d ago

not make Putin out to be a genius

Why not? Look around you, they’ve won. Objectively, they developed specific capabilities, doubled and tripled down over decades and this is the payoff. Was it orchestrated every single step of the way? Unlikely. But cmon, you have to give him credit where it’s due. He’s a superior player on the global stage. Can’t govern for shit, but boy does he know geopolitical tradecraft

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u/Ldghead 2d ago

They've won? How do you figure? What did Putin directly do to cause Trump to instill massive tariffs? And what did "they" win? A prize of some sort? A fancy crown?

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u/shokolokobangoshey 2d ago
  • U.S. alienating itself from allies
  • The death of U.S. hegemony
  • NATO in a panicked state
  • De-dollarization of global trade
  • Ukraine
  • Sowing distrust in western elections

ALL of these have been longstanding geopolitical goals of the kremlin. Unless you’ve been living under a rock, the kremlin’s overt support for Trump is no secret. Cambridge analytica, the DNC hack, the “adoptions” meeting etc have all paid off massively. But the nature of your tone (“what did a win a fancy crown??”) tells me I’m wasting my time here

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u/Ldghead 2d ago

You talk like all of these are end-game type situations. Yes, some are further along than others, but none are set in stone, and many are quite up for interpretation. Some are even debatable.

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u/YoAmoElTacos 2d ago

Napoleon eventually failed to invade Russia and lost at Waterloo. But that doesn't negate all the other cases where he showed off his military expertise.

Likewise, the USA eventually reversing the policies of the Trump administration does not change the fact that Russia was able to maneuver it into the current situation with adroit manipulation of the limited factors at its disposal.

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u/shokolokobangoshey 2d ago

You’re missing this part: the emperor has no clothes. Trust arrives on foot and leaves on horseback. Coming back from this isn’t impossible, but the collateral damage is incalculable. There are some that say we’re still paying for the lack of accountability from civil war reconstruction. Nobody here has a century long timeline, so functionally, it is an endgame type situation. Putin could fucking die tomorrow and he’d be revered as the man that brought the west to its knees

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u/Bediavad 1d ago

Putin brought the US down to his level, but he is still an idiot who ruined his own country. China on the other hand is mostly unscathed, and has now more global standing relatively.