r/law • u/INCoctopus Competent Contributor • 1d ago

Court Decision/Filing ‘This unlawful impost must fall’: Conservative group sues Trump claiming tariffs are ‘unconstitutional exercise of legislative power’

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-unlawful-impost-must-fall-conservative-group-sues-trump-claiming-tariffs-are-unconstitutional-exercise-of-legislative-power/
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u/EnslavedBandicoot 1d ago

Oh NOW they want to reign him in, when THEY start losing money. Gotcha. Conservatives are fucking snakes.

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u/No-Edge-8600 1d ago

My dark theory: Trump gets removed; Then gets replaced with the actual Russian spy.

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u/cap_oupascap 1d ago

Vance seems more like Peter Thiel’s puppet than a Russian one

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u/myburdentobear 1d ago

I've wondered if there would be a point where the clash of interests among the Christian Nationalists, the tech bros, and the Russians all come to a head and we see them all eat each other.

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u/Kreegs 1d ago

Vance doesn't have the charisma to keep all those different groups together. Trump does.

So if Trump goes, the infighting will be start immediately as each of those groups fight for control.

With any luck, they don't get their shit together, nothing more bad happens and the House & Senate flip in 2 years (that last part is wishful thinking).

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u/Greenmanssky 1d ago

Thats what I dont understand; Trump has all the charisma of a moldy cum sandwich and is half as desirable in any given room.

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u/melophat 1d ago

His bread and butter are people who think that being racist, sexist, and a bully are admirable traits. They like that he doubles down and never admits faults. That's what they see as charisma because he makes them feel like it's ok to be assholes

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u/BetsRduke 1d ago

He has a lot of followers in the famous he tells it like it is stupid gang

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u/diamondgreene 1d ago

“Charisma” is in the eye of the beholder. Somebody already said that scummy peeps like him.

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u/Slight-Guidance-3796 1d ago

Now I understand how cults grow.

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u/niceguybadboy 1d ago

None of these dudes are charismatic: Trump, Vance, Musk.

I expected the antichrist to be better spoken.

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u/Zealot_Alec 2h ago

Trump speaks on a level most of MAGA can understand and relate to

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u/giraloco 1d ago

At least Vance suggested not bombing yemen. He may accomplish nothing which is better than what we have now.

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u/MobileLocal 1d ago

It’s apparent that 47 does have charisma over them all and I do NOT get it! I am ready for the infighting. It has GOT to be bubbling.

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u/IANALbutIAMAcat 19h ago

I feel like we need to make a new word to describe Trump’s… je ne sais quoi.

Like, technically it works like charisma. But surely it’s not ‘charming’ in the typical sense of the word. It’s more like pied pipery.

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u/im_a_mighty_pirate 1d ago

They're all taking the same steps but expecting different outcomes. Who will be right?

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u/PensiveinNJ 1d ago

This is what I've been wondering. The Technolibertarians and Christian Nationalists are extremely awkward bedfellows, then you throw in the Russian influence and who knows what kind of weirdness might emerge.

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u/theWaywardSun 1d ago edited 1d ago

The other problem is that they all have room temperature IQ. 

Christian Nationalists chose Dump to set up their Ethnostate but he's too stupid to not shit his pants and fumble an economy. This was the time to make this change riding off Democrat success but dumbass couldn't follow through.

The Technobros aren't charismatic enough besides the smooth brain Elon Musk.

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u/PensiveinNJ 1d ago

The technobros want very different things than the Christian Nationalists. In many ways this kind of isolationist moment is exactly what a libertarian would want, and Peter Thiel is nothing if not a libertarian or perhaps more accurately a monarchist. Peter Thiel doesn't care about money the way many people care about money, he wants to be godking of his little technofeudal kingdom and if he has to destroy the country to get it, well that's just effective accelerationism baby.

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u/WillBottomForBanana 1d ago

It sounds good (or, as good as anything we can expect). But it's that whole "when giants fight it's the small who get trampled" thing.

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u/Dracomortua 1d ago

No idea what is real or not at this point?

If this is a movie, please let me know. Heck, put Rachel Zegler in there, controversially kicking some MickeyMouse & incel ass.

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u/likebuttuhbaby 1d ago

I’ve been wondering about this a lot lately, since it seems like the actual laws of this country won’t step up in any meaningful way. Does the Heritage Foundation really want to let go of any of their American Taliban regime to the tech bros who want something very different?

I don’t really factor Russia into that because all they want is Americas destruction. Doesn’t seem like they actually want to rule the country…yet. Those other two groups want to be our kings.

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u/Edie_T 1d ago

Remember that Illuminati board game from like 50 years ago? Quaint. Dunno why it's popped into my head lately tho.

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u/rhombic-12gon 1d ago

your lips to God's ears

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u/Ariadnepyanfar 1d ago

Any chaos or any type of damage whatsoever is a bonus for Russia.

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u/kamace11 1d ago

If they are really determined to take this in an autocratic direction it is inevitable.

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u/AsparagusCommon4164 1d ago

Not unlike the Kilkenny Cats of lore.

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u/r1veriared 1d ago

Can't happen fast enough

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u/aptadnauseum 1d ago

Stop... I can only get so optimistic.

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u/mOjzilla 1d ago

I hate this horrible image that just popped up in my head the tech bro, some robe wearing dude and some vodka guzzler all in a 180° position eating the other one out in a triangle formation. I guess the winner takes it all at this point.

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u/mologav 1d ago

Surely there are boards of big weapons businesses who have lost a fortune who have the ways and means of taking out Trump with relative ease?