r/machinesinaction 2d ago

And I can't have plastic straw?

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u/Paraselene_Tao 1d ago

The whole straw topic has been a minor smokescreen from serious, bigger issues anyhow. Your straws barely add much to the pollution on our planet; meanwhile, fossil fuels still lobby for government policies, control large financial institutes, control the media in its myriad forms, astroturf or top-bottom propagate misinformation on a scale never seen before, and do all kinds of other bullshit to mind control the population. Meanwhile, that guy's exhaust and our straws are close to the least of our problems. You and I shouldn't even be having this fucking discussion if our government(s) properly handled climate change >50 years ago. Instead, here we are.

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u/Girderland 1d ago edited 1d ago

I signed a petition to make Ecocide a crime a couple of months ago. Wouldn't it be nice if the corporations destroying our planet would have to pay astronomic reparation sums and if the decisionmakers who chose to make life worse for all of us in exchange for profit would face long prison sentences?

That'd be nice. It would also be nice if we would just chill out for a couple of generations, plant hemp and poppies. They say that for the climate to recover, even if we stop all emmissions, would take 200 years.

Stop producing crap. There are already more cars than people on the planet. Make stuff repairable. No need for a new phone every 2 years.

Let's just ride donkeys and plant cabbages and if we are lucky our great-great grandchildren will have pre-industrial climate again and hopefully they will do a better job at not ruining it.

It could be so easy if there was a will.

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u/ManyThingsLittleTime 1d ago

Do you own a donkey or a car?

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u/Christophe12591 1d ago

Right this is a guy who probably lives in a city and walks to wherever he goes and definitely doesn’t have kids , ya lemme put the 3 car seats on the back of a donkey lol

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u/Dissentient 6h ago

You're saying "lives in a city and walks" as if that's not an objectively cleaner lifestyle compared to people who need to produce 20 tons of CO2 per year just because they chose to live in places that were designed by car manufacturers to sell more cars.

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u/Christophe12591 6h ago

And I’m sure you and him the same person who preaches clean lifestyle and then flys on an airplane once in a while, who produce more co2 going on vacation more than I ever have or could in ten lifetimes

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u/Dissentient 6h ago

Those are unrelated things though. It's not like car owners take fewer plane trips. They would just be emitting even more CO2 on top of what they do as a baseline.

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u/Christophe12591 6h ago

I don’t. I hate planes I won’t go on one

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u/Dissentient 6h ago

Well, I never fly on planes too, but I also hate cars.

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u/Christophe12591 6h ago

And I’m sorry for being crass I guess we got off topic, what I meant to say in my original comment is I think it’s a fantasy world where no one uses cars, I HAVE too. Or I would lose my house and job so it’s a necessity. That’s all I meant.

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u/ArugulaEnthusiast 3h ago

You may have to now, you may have to forever, but that doesn’t always have to be the case for everyone. We can start by building better communities so cars become more about recreation than survival.