r/marvelstudios Jan 31 '25

Discussion The scrutiny and double standards is exactly why Sam gives back the shield in "Falcon and The Winter Soldier"

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/disney-marvel-captain-america-brave-new-world-politics-1236122701/

Bucky's line "I don't think we realized what it actually meant for a black man to hold the shield" was his sign that he understood the greater scrutiny, racism and double standards that Sam would encounter. Same as the shit Mackie's facing now.

EDIT: Anyone who criticizes FATWS however justly for its faults, can we not give Marvel some credit for hearing our demands and giving us an hourlong loop of Zemo dancing within DAYS of the episode? I mean c'mon that's fan service.

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u/LiftsnFlics Feb 01 '25

I love comics and marvel to death, but we’re talking about a man that dresses up in patriotic military gear with mecha wings and an indestructible frisbee fighting a red rage monster on top of Megamind.

Even Cap 2: Winter Soldier, the bees knees of the MCU, is incredibly goofy and tackles social issues at max a surface level. I still love these movies for what they are if it sounds like I’m hating.

We’re actually gonna listen to people who use “woke” and “liberal garbage” as criticism for a superhero movie?

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u/Extension-While7536 Feb 01 '25

No we're gonna ignore them and ask once again, "What's your actual plan for fighting inflation? No, really. What's the plan?"

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u/LiftsnFlics Feb 01 '25

No senator, you got to do better! Oh man, that show is something else in the worst ways possible.

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u/Extension-While7536 Feb 01 '25

Nah, the show had some good stuff going for it. Didn't all add up, but enough did work to make it noteworthy.

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u/LiftsnFlics Feb 01 '25

Loved all the bucky stuff (big Sebastian Stan guy) and the dynamic between him and Sam. John Walker was a neat addition too, looking forward to the Thunderbolts movie.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Log9378 Feb 03 '25

He said a lot more than that, but you didn't watch the show.

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u/LiftsnFlics Feb 03 '25

Mustering up the courage to watch another ep of Falcon and the Winter Soldier is gonna take me a while.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Log9378 Feb 03 '25

So you got nothing, predictable

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u/LiftsnFlics Feb 03 '25

It was meme’d over the internet for weeks when the finale aired for a reason. I genuinely looked forward to a show about Sam and Bucky, but its was disappointing for me and many others. But if u like it, hey cool brother. Enjoy your day.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Log9378 Feb 03 '25

Yes, because folks who were against the show being made were looking for any excuse and deliberately cut up what he really said to suit their agenda

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u/Extension-While7536 Feb 01 '25

Anybody who talks about an MCU movie as the bee's knees is a god among insects in my book. You are welcome here.

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u/LiftsnFlics Feb 01 '25

Ty, the Winter Soldier is a darn good action spy movie. Disney when they want to be is capable of quality stuff.