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Article Wilson Fisk/Kingpin Cannot Appear in Movies, Only TV Series, Daredevil’s Vincent D’Onofrio Reveals

https://tvline.com/news/wilson-fisk-kingpin-no-movies-only-tv-vincent-donofrio-1235428964/

I don't think this was public knowledge before, but I suppose it makes sense since Kingpin is as much a Spider-Man villain as he is Daredevil. I assume Sony owns his film rights, but Marvel is still able to use him on TV, so maybe they could get him in a Spider-Man movie at least? D'Onofrio doesn't even seem confident about that though, so who knows.

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u/harbourwall 2d ago

That list of frozen characters in 7A is an interesting read. Mostly silly characters, but didn't Spider-Man appear in What If as a Zombie?

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u/eBICgamer2010 Rocket 2d ago edited 2d ago

Marvel has seemingly granted Sony access to some frozen characters sometimes before the first Spider-Verse film, hence why they lifted restriction on Marvel Zombies and ITSV featured Spider-Ham.

Edit: Well technically Marvel had always had the right to use frozen characters since 2009 in the short form animation space.

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u/harbourwall 2d ago

You can almost see Spider-Verse coming out of writers looking over these lists for ideas. Absolutely fascinating.

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u/Oraukk 2d ago

Spider-Man was in the What If Zombie episode, but as a human. He was one of the characters still alive by the end

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u/harbourwall 2d ago

'for contractual reasons'

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u/Oraukk 2d ago

I'm sorry, I think I'm a little lost about the point you're making.

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u/harbourwall 1d ago

That contract looks like it forbids the portrayal of Spider-Man as a zombie in both Sony and Marvel productions, not only because it would deviate from his core character traits, but also a Spider-Man zombie is explicitly forbidden in Schedule 7A. If Peter Parker remained human in that What If zombie episode, then it's possible that the reason was to comply with this contract.

The phrase 'for contractual reasons' is an often used hand-wave to not explain the reasons for something. I used it flippantly here because it actually fits. Of course I'm not going to read the whole document, so I'm not entirely sure if my interpretation is accurate. But it's just a bit of fun.

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u/Oraukk 1d ago

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the info.

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u/Deathcon2004 2d ago

Pretty sure Disney can still make animated Spider-Man media and only live action is owned by Sony.