r/marvelstudios • u/pje1128 Kilgrave • 2d ago

Article Wilson Fisk/Kingpin Cannot Appear in Movies, Only TV Series, Daredevil’s Vincent D’Onofrio Reveals

https://tvline.com/news/wilson-fisk-kingpin-no-movies-only-tv-vincent-donofrio-1235428964/

I don't think this was public knowledge before, but I suppose it makes sense since Kingpin is as much a Spider-Man villain as he is Daredevil. I assume Sony owns his film rights, but Marvel is still able to use him on TV, so maybe they could get him in a Spider-Man movie at least? D'Onofrio doesn't even seem confident about that though, so who knows.

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u/Hippo_in_limbo Black Panther 2d ago

This means they'll never meet.

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u/pje1128 Kilgrave 2d ago

You're right, they have completely opposite contacts. Such a shame.

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u/BigPlayG757 2d ago

But kingpin was in the old fox daredevil movie? And now that Fox is owned by Disney idk how the movie rights for the character would switch to Sony. I know the kingpin himself said it but I don't understand how it's possible

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u/pje1128 Kilgrave 2d ago

From what I've seen people say in this thread, Fox had Kingpin's film rights when they had Daredevil's film rights, but those would revert to Sony if Fox ever lost Daredevil's film rights. A few years later, Daredevil's film rights reverted back to Marvel, but Sony retained Kingpin's film rights because of that contract.

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u/BigPlayG757 2d ago

Ahhhh that's insane but I guess it makes sense. Whoever originally wrote up these contracts was on coke

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u/Hakeem_TheDream 1d ago

Marvel did everything they had to do to stay afloat. That means all sorts of backdoors and loops were on the table.

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u/BigPlayG757 1d ago

O I get that part! The fact marvel made it through that time is nothing short of a miracle

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u/No_Neighborhood5665 1d ago

Usually yes, coke is involved.

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u/Dr_Shakahlu 13h ago

Most likely

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u/Gamble007 1d ago

If that's the case, then we should all just be glad Sony never tried giving him his own movie and running the character for everyone.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) 1d ago

We should be glad Lord & Miller decided to use him in Into the Spider-Verse; that might've kept him out of the running for the SSU.

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u/DukeOfLowerChelsea 1d ago

Don’t start giving them ideas… #It'sKingpin'Time

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u/ComicHead84 1d ago

You’d think Sony would be motivated to just sell the rights to Disney for a fat stack of cash. Their use of these IPs don’t seem like very profitable ventures

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u/pje1128 Kilgrave 20h ago

Their solo movies have gotta be losing them money, but the MCU Spider-Man movies are consistently making a billion, and most of that goes to Sony. If I were them, I'd try to negotiate a way to give Marvel creative control of the characters while still acting as a producer to the Spidey films and taking a percentage of the intake so they don't have to keep making soulless movies no one asked for just to retain the rights. Or, you know, hire people who are passionate about the characters, don't interfere with their process, and let them create the films they want with your characters. I mean, instead of random villain/anti-hero movies, they could've been giving us Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Gwen, Silk, all characters they own and have just been ignoring for some reason.

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u/Burdiac 1d ago

Fox paid Sony for the rights to use Wilson Fisk / Kingpin in the movie