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Leave them alone🤬🤬🤬

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u/Avnesya 23h ago edited 22h ago

Is there actually "people" unironically defending em at this point?

Legit asking

edit : typo

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u/Apprehensive_Foot139 22h ago

I remember when people were out for Palworld's devs' blood when it came out. I remember people rejoicing when nintendo finally filed for a lawsuit. I don't get these people tbh

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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 21h ago

Which is stupid because patents don’t belong in games, but fanboys gonna do

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u/fibstheman 18h ago

The majority of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA games are founded almost entirely on their technological innovation, so why in the world wouldn't patents, which protect technological innovations, apply to games

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u/Lexicon444 16h ago

Because the patents in question are super generic in nature.

I believe one of them had to do with throwing stuff (like pokeballs for example) which is incredibly generic and most likely used in other monster catching games in addition to Palworld.

It’s also notable that some of these patents were not even applied for until AFTER Palworld existed.

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u/Eevee_Fuzz-E 5h ago

And that these game concepts existed BEFORE Pokemon did.

It wasn't Nintendo's innovation in the first place.

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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 17h ago

Ok, so Tetris now gets dibs on the patent for MIDI songs and shapes, fuck Mega Man and fuck Super Mario.

Hey I just patented a new game mechanic, is called Quick Time Events! And no, you can’t use them in your games because it is my innovation.

Hello, I just patented game progression in terms of XP or Experience Points, is mine to use alone.

Games are built on the innovations of prior installments.

If you don’t think patent trolling is bad for innovation check how they have to dismantle AT$T decades ago. Pretty sure cellphones and modems would’ve been invented.

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u/BobTheKekomancer 22h ago

The church of nintendo has THE WORST, most braindead fanboys you could imagine.

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u/LightbringerOG 22h ago

Nostalgia is a powerful drug.
Same thing would be Sonic fans, only difference is Sega is not an asshole company, not that I know of.

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u/ExiledFromSpace 21h ago

Sega banished their collective assholes to "work on" Phantasy Star where they can't hurt anyone (except fans of Phantasy Star).

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u/misterfluffykitty 20h ago

I’m still mad at sega for new genesis

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u/ExiledFromSpace 19h ago

We all are.

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u/IllurinatiL Royal Shitposter 20h ago

fans of Phantasy star

Those exist?

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u/ExiledFromSpace 19h ago edited 19h ago

Mostly in Japan, for better or worse.

Phantasy Star Online 2 used to be decently big until a few years ago when they decided to rebrand/relaunch the game in the form of "paving over everything with an incomplete beta concept version of a brand new game, but keeping the old version on life support as 20 gigabyte DLC so nobody can run a private server".

Incredibly unique case of a live service game being erased from the face of the world. That's the sort of concentrated evil being kept at bay by that department, deep in the pits of Sega.

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u/SenorSnout 21h ago

I'd say Disney fans are a more apt comparison.

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u/Roger_Weebert 19h ago

10+ years ago there was definitely some SEGA copyright strike drama, but they do at least seem like reformed assholes nowadays. Honestly for quite a while it seemed like they would end up going the way of Atari. I’m happy they turned it around

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u/Justinbiebspls 19h ago

companies aren't people

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u/ApprehensiveWear6080 15h ago

Oh boy you have no idea. I talked shit about Zelda once in front of a fanboi and he FOLLOWED ME HOME to "teach me why I was wrong" since he "didn't have my number". They are on the same level as religious fanatics.

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u/sonictickler223 14h ago

SEGA are only assholes with their other franchises imo

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u/supe3rnova 13h ago

I played pokemon (fire) red alot (on emulator).

I did try few other pokemon games but they are just ass. They always been ass but to a kid it does not matter.

And today, just 3d with 2005 HD graphics.

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u/ReadShigurui 21h ago

Playstation fans are up there though

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u/Ventira 19h ago

no, thats Sony Ponies.

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u/BobTheKekomancer 14h ago

Why not both ?

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u/DDBBVV 21h ago

Pretty sure Pokemon fans are a distant, evil cousin of Nintendo fans

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u/MightBeTrollingMaybe 21h ago

AFAIK Palworld shrugged the lawsuit off by just slightly modifying the game mechanics anyway.

Game's still there, perfectly healthy. And by the looks of it its graphics are still gonna be better than the upcoming new Pokémon game anyway.

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u/Petrol1991 22h ago

Because fanbois gonna fanboi

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u/LuckyBlockReddit 21h ago

I don't really care too much about Palworld, but as an artist I don't like that they took designs from Pokémon and changed a few things, then called it a Pal. I'm no fangirl for Pokémon, but I'm not a fan of plagiarism either.

Though the hate isn't justified. I dislike the game, but I wouldn't say I hate it to the extent I want the developers sued. Those people need to grow up.

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u/stache1313 19h ago

I agree. Although I'm okay with the lawsuit after I saw Moon Channel's video about it. Supposedly Palworld is exempt from its plagiarism because it technically counts as a parody which is protected in both the US and Japan. And Nintendo wasn't interested in suing Palworld, until Sony partnered with them to create an new Pokemon style company.

Plus the more I learn about Palworld's creators, the less I trust them.

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u/LuckyBlockReddit 19h ago

Wait, so what did the developers do?

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u/stache1313 17h ago

For one, the studio has four games in early access, and none of them are close to being finished. With Sony buying Palworld I would imagine that they would want the game to be finished at least, instead of abandoning it.

The studio head has also talked about how coming up with new ideas is difficult and that he would rather just copy what's popular. Which I at least give him credit for his honesty.

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u/todo-senpai 5h ago

Yeah and I have people that say me they don't look alike, or it's not stealing when the pal looks like a recolored pokemon

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u/ZeeDarkSoul 21h ago

I was never against Palworld, but it did kind of annoy me how Palworld defenders, would ignore the strikingly similarities the game has in designs and mechanics.

Like yeah it wasnt copy and paste, but it obviously isnt some completely uniquely thought game, and the pal designs take HEAVY inspiration from Pokemon. You really cant say they didnt.

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u/Winterlash 21h ago

npc ass take

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u/ZeeDarkSoul 20h ago

Says the guy that just joins the "Hate on company" hate train lmao

Go back to your echo chamber

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u/RythmicRythyn 20h ago edited 18h ago

Because talking in a subreddit about valid criticisms is hate lmao And then ofc you go and use a dumb buzzword because you got offended by someone calling out your lukewarm paragraph, and doubled down to show us you're not here tot alo and you -are- that person. Cheers

Edit: imagine white-knighting a person you have never met before on the internet so hard that you lose all sight and intelligence, especially when you leave out the exact context of why I wrote this lmao

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u/fleegness 19h ago

He's responding to a guy who called him a buzzword my man. Aren't you gonna whine at that guy too?

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u/RythmicRythyn 19h ago

Are you actually going to bring something to the conversation or just try to be a dumb child who only gets his rocks off by trying to be an obvious ass on the internet?

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u/fleegness 19h ago

You're not bringing anything to this either lol. 

You're defending someone whose post was literally "NPC ass take."

Which is hilariously... An NPC ass take.

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u/RythmicRythyn 19h ago

Got it, obvious ass troll who "thinks' me calling out someone who claimed criticism as hate and then completely takes everything else out of context or just ignores it for his dumbass trolling, is now having a moral superiority trip on reddit. Cheers for proving me right! 👍

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u/fleegness 19h ago

Okay lmao.

What context did I leave out? 

Guy makes a post with criticism of the people criticizing Nintendo. 

Some idiot responds with "NPC ass take."

First guy responds to that calling that guy out for just jumping on the bandwagon.

You call out that call out and cry about buzzwords.

I point out you're defending a guy using buzzwords. 

You start crying at me. 

Enlighten me.

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u/CrescentShade 18h ago

it was an insult to the creature collector genre with the most banal derivative designs possible getting propped up as the greatest thing ever while many other games *actually* in the genre with actually good monster designs just get ignored

everyone clamoring over it because "competition for Pokemon" clearly never cared about the genre in the first place

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u/An_Evil_Scientist666 20h ago

There's 3 levels of Nintendo fan, the weirdos, the people who just wanna feel that old school Nintendo nostalgia again, and kids of course.

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u/Any_Tell6420 17h ago

I don't, either. Imho being a fan means you're not afraid to call a company out when they have messed up. Showing that you don't stand for something one of your favorite companies or whatever is doing something shitty shows way more respect than allowing them to take advantage all the time. I'm a fan of Nintendo. But I also know they really are delusional.

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u/bornatra 13h ago

It’s wild how quick the internet turned on Palworld. First fun, then fire and pitchforks.

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u/dragondont 10h ago

Fairly sure game freak dropped the lawsuit cause they would basically be admitting to copying digimon

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u/ParkingShelter9634 54m ago

While not out for blood, I certainly was upset at palworld for using AI. Tho hate cuz it's a pokemon parody is a pretty stupid thing, seeing how many of them open their wallets for rom hacks

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u/Shahariar_909 22h ago

I dont play either games but palworld did copy the pokemons. 

But atleast they made a better game 

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u/fibstheman 18h ago

i would've been like "heh yeah" if Nintendo filed a lawsuit for a reason that made fucking sense but they didn't. world today is bizarre

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u/Aggressive-Debt1476 21h ago

Nah fuck Palworld Nintendo is fully in the right for that

Palworld is bottom of the barrel slop and is harmful to the gaming industry

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u/pandaboy78 21h ago

If you actually think that, then you haven't played the latest Pokemon SV... 😂 Consistent less than 30 FPS, glitches and constant lag, common pop-ins for 30% of every character model, that one classroom scene that ran on everyone's switch quite literally at 6 FPS...

Palworld may have not innovated much, but they made a god damn super fun game. Recently, I had a friend who was against Palworld for everything it stood for. He finally played it and understood why it was so heavily praised and completely switched sides.

Don't defend the company that's literally the highest grossing franchise in the world. If you're a Pokemon fan, Give them competition so that Pokemon itself can improve.

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u/PashaB 21h ago

The Pokemon games are literal bottom of the barrel slop. Sword plays like a shitty 2005 tech demo you'd get on a CD. Just piss poor cookie cutter bullshit running at 540p 15fps.

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u/Aggressive-Debt1476 21h ago

All of this applies to Palworld just as much, if not even more. There is zero defence for Palworld's existence

Also, Sword plays literally fine. What are you on about??? The only one with proper performance issues is S/V.

Yeah, SWSH looks awful, but at least the visual style is consistent, and the FPS is smooth. The same cannot be said about Palworld lmfao.

I'm so tired of PW defenders. This game is so problematic and if you genuinely cannot see the issues with it and support it, then I don't know what to say to you.

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u/Frottage-Cheese-7750 21h ago

NURSE! They're out of bed again!

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u/ReanimatedPixels 21h ago

Someone’s only watched a few reaction YouTubers on the subject and it shows

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u/ElmsVidsOff 21h ago

Literally anyone who is a creator or artist and values ownership of what they create was on Nintendo's side.

Plagiarism is plagiarism no matter who is involved.

And let's not pretend Pocketpair isn't a near-billion-dollar company in its own right.

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u/Frottage-Cheese-7750 21h ago

Literally anyone who is a creator or artist and values ownership of what they create was on Nintendo's side.

🤣

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u/ElmsVidsOff 21h ago

Love the whole "the single factor in my opinion is the company's net worth" perspective

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u/RythmicRythyn 20h ago

Ah yes because they totally said that and you're not just filling in words that aren't there because you're mad