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English for Beginners

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u/Swervin69 1d ago

Don’t feel bad beginners, fluent speakers still don’t know how to tell their, there, and they’re apart.

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u/ciopobbi 1d ago

Lose and loose

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u/Loldungeonleo 22h ago

I know the difference between the 2 and still messed it up in a different sub like 20min ago.

Lose: You no longer have something

Loose: Something is barely attached

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u/save_the_winos 21h ago edited 21h ago

Lose: the opposite of win

Loose: your mom

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u/Loldungeonleo 21h ago

damn bro why ya gotta do me like that

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u/mc17live 6h ago

He didn't.. he did your mom like that..

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u/Nassiel 13h ago

Maybe, I'll remember now, say thanks to your mom!

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u/NikNakskes 21h ago

And how to remember this: loose has two o because it is stretched out, lose has one o because it lost the extra stretchy one.

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u/Bagel-Bite-Me 12h ago

I say “loosey goosey “ to help me remember lol

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u/alexiovay 21h ago

or people using "should of"

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u/A-KindOfMagic 16h ago edited 8h ago

Then and than bothers me a bit as an ESL.

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u/evios31 17h ago

Effect/affect

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u/angry640 16h ago

Weather whether, Then than, bare bear, Insight incite, Hole whole, Flower flour, Apparently they are called homophones as in "words that sound the same but mean different things"

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u/daFancyPants 17h ago

Breath and breathe To and too

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u/Technical-Outside408 20h ago

I hate it so much. There is such a dissonance between the sounds those two make. It's awful.

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u/itsLOSE-notLOOSE 14h ago

This is a big one for me.

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u/hec_ramsey 11h ago

Break and brake

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u/Ooblongdeck 11h ago

I lose, she's loose

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u/ElderberryPrior27648 10h ago

This one makes me angry for some reason

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u/Luxky13 7h ago

This one irrationally annoys me, but easy mistake to make I guess. I noticed a thesis dissertation I was reading for my essay made the same mistake

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u/bioticspacewizard 14h ago

Rogue and rouge

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u/ElTortugo 9h ago

Gose and goose

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u/allnaturalfigjam 22h ago

Is it just me or do a lot of fluent English speakers use "weary" and "wary" interchangeably? I keep hearing people saying "be weary of that" and I'm starting to think I'm the crazy one.

I had a boyfriend in uni who pronounced "wander" the same as "wonder". Drove me up the wall.

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u/hhfugrr3 18h ago

How often are you meeting people who others think you need to be cautious of?

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u/allnaturalfigjam 18h ago

I live in Australia, it's less the people and more the place

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u/hhfugrr3 18h ago

Ahh makes sense. Good luck with... well everything out there

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u/allnaturalfigjam 18h ago

Thanks mate

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u/Silent_Yesterday_671 9h ago

I believe you meant to say "How often are you meeting people of whom others think you need to be cautious?"

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u/hhfugrr3 7h ago

Quite possibly, but I take the view that the word "whom" is passing into history. It's still used occasionally, but I think over the coming century it'll fall out of use. If I spoke the sentence you wrote to a fellow non-posh Brit, I reckon they'd give me a damn funny look.

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u/sleepytoday 17h ago

I have noticed that people who pronounce wander and wonder as homophones tend to confuse the spelling, too.

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u/blewawei 10h ago

That's why most spelling mistakes happen, generally. Historical linguists use those kinds of errors to figure out past pronunciations from before we could record voices.

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u/Grantrello 9h ago

Yeah it's something that has apparently caught on recently because I see it written a lot too. People will write weary when they mean wary.

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u/ShoddyMain893 23h ago

Paid and payed

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u/ewixy750 21h ago

The number of people here using then instead of than is annoying me way more than anything else, and English is my 4th language...

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u/okarox 11h ago

Native speakers make different mistakes as they approach it from the spoken language. Brea and brake is often confused. I would never do that as my perspective is visual.

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u/blewawei 10h ago

Yep. If you see someone mix up "you're" and "your", they're probably a native speaker.

Similarly, if you hear someone make a distinction between two words that are spelt differently but typically pronounced the same, they're probably speaking English as their second language.

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u/blewawei 10h ago

Yep. If you see someone mix up "you're" and "your", they're probably a native speaker.

Similarly, if you hear someone make a distinction between two words that are spelt differently but typically pronounced the same, they're probably speaking English as their second language.

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u/Janina220 20h ago

And your and you're

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u/PeruvianKnicks 1d ago

Fluent speakers that failed middle school maybe.

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u/ManWhoIsDrunk 12h ago

In the case of USAnian creole, try native speakers with university degrees...

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u/SullyTheSullen 13h ago

I know people who struggle with two, to and too.

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u/oldschoolgruel 22h ago

Advice and advise

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u/Swervin69 21h ago

Affect and effect

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u/Suchisthe007life 15h ago

Then and than

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u/GuessTraining 17h ago

Than and then

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u/Idontknowhoiam143 21h ago

I see what you did their

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u/Quiet-Luck 18h ago

I always struggle with to and too (as a not native speaker).

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u/Top_Caterpillar6020 18h ago

Affect and effect

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u/warfaceisthebest 16h ago

Funny thing is there, their and they're are not that confusing for ESL people.

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u/SmokingLimone 16h ago edited 16h ago

ESL learn on textbooks first while natives learn by speech first, so they have no doubt how they're supposed to be spelt but they might have trouble hearing the difference

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u/warfaceisthebest 16h ago

Another fun fact is due to accent and connected speech, most ESL cannot actually understanding every word in a sentence. Most of times we just guess which word it is. Although there/they're/their sounds similar, but the spelling and word classes are distinguishable so it is really easy to guess which one it is.

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u/AlphaNowis 15h ago

Yeah, their pretty bad at this your right.

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u/beene282 14h ago

Or even a part and apart (not you)

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u/gamerjerome 14h ago

I know the difference but that doesn't mean I always use the correct one in a sentence. My brain is fighting the idea that we need three different spellings for something we can differentiate by context.

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u/cottonballz4829 13h ago

Or should have that turned into should of somehow

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u/MuglokDecrepitusFx 12h ago

Yeah, it's simply astonishing seeing comments of native speakers saying things like ".... you're car looks...", like wtf who is a car, how they can fuck it something so simple?

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u/AdditionalNewt4762 12h ago

Through tough thorough thought, we'll get their...

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u/sliferra 12h ago

Or rapper or…. The other one.

Or lose and loose

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u/Secretfutawaifu 11h ago

For some reason I can't comprehend why people have difficulties with that. Maybe it's because my mother language is Dutch?

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u/Alarming_Employee547 10h ago

It’s not because it’s difficult to understand. It’s because they have been let down by our education system and they probably stopped learning and retaining new information somewhere around 11-13 years of age.

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u/Underghost_420 9h ago

I am not a native speaker, but I consider myself fluent enough. Recently, I had to learn how to use commas because I noticed that I never really knew how to use them lol

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u/Mriajamo 6h ago

Too and to

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u/-_Anonymous__- 5h ago

That's thear fault not mine

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u/Lord_of_Swords 19h ago

I do. It’s not hard

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u/in1gom0ntoya 21h ago

hell, most can't native speakers can't even read past a 7th grade level.

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u/FingerSlamGrandpa 16h ago

The average reading level in the US is 7th grade.

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u/Asendra01 15h ago

And that's the average. Half of them are worse

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u/in1gom0ntoya 12h ago

correct, it's truly a terrible thing.

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u/in1gom0ntoya 12h ago

yes. the largest population that speaks English natively is the in US, by far. hence why I said what I said.

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