r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

English for Beginners

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u/Fartout92 1d ago

I've learned English as a second language by myself throughout my life just by watching and hearing it from movies, videogames, music and TV shows. I've searched for this specific issue several times and I couldn't find a clear answer for it. Is there an actual set of rules for vowel pronunciation other than short and long sounds? Can't take a "is an exception to the rule" as an answer anymore lmao.

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u/xXLordGabbenXx 19h ago

Think about it like this England had ancient Germanic tribes, the Romans (parts of which used Greek), the anglicans, the saxons, a bunch of Germanic tribes and Vikings, the French, the Dutch, and then the old English. Add on the new terms from globalization and Native American words and you get American English But in general, look for the origin of the word: Germanic, Latin, or Greek (and sometimes Anglo-Saxon)

That’s why the grammmer and vocabulary are funky

At least it’s not French: Eye = œil Eyes = yeux

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u/Giordano86 19h ago

Get the book Uncovering the Logic of English: A Common-Sense Approach to Reading, Spelling, and Literacy Paperback – July 20, 2012 by Denise Eide

As much as people say there's so many exceptions to English, that's not actually true.

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u/puppyenemy 17h ago

There are a lot of reasons why English is messed up, but the biggest reason I'd say would be because of French. About 60% of English has Romance origin (French and Latin). A lot of words were imported by the Norman upper class, which then later had to be pronounced by the English, who spoke a Germanic language. Sometimes, the same words were even reintroduced again but with a slightly different pronounciation/spelling.

Another big reason was also the Great Vowel Shift, where some vowels started being pronounced more and more like different vowels, which in turn shifted those vowels to be pronounced differently, and so on it went. The spelling of the words often remained, but the pronunciation was now different.

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u/LucaYoung4 9h ago

Interesting!!

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u/MuglokDecrepitusFx 11h ago

The only logical answer is that this language was made by 2 monkeys that hate each other