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Kamala Harris describing exactly what would happen to the economy if Donald Trump is elected

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u/redheadMInerd2 2d ago

She sure is a LOT smarter than him or anyone else in his administration.

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u/boredonymous 2d ago

Then why did so many voters just not bother to vote for her?!

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u/Deadguy247365 2d ago

More of the reflection of our education system and the power of the narrative. Republicans were better at their narrative even if it was all BS.

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u/Canthisbeforrezal77 2d ago

Education is the foundation that the gop have fractured. Went into a retail store a couple of weeks ago, they had put up cards on every rack to let people know what the discount was for a certain discount. Most in this country cannot do simple math, 10, 20 and 30% off an item. It speaks volumes.

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u/Deadguy247365 1d ago

Break it or barely make it functional to privatize it. Unfortunately MAFF, academic research, and statistics are not understood well enough.

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u/RN_in_Illinois 2d ago

You know that the education system's structure is largely driven by teachers' unions, right? Yes, schools are really expensive and produce lousy results.

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u/second_last_jedi 2d ago

I well never understand this comment. Narrative is one thing but basic education and common sense would have told you what trump is trying to do is stupid. So no it’s not just a narrative thing- the way US has set up things from the constitution to the way the political system works, it’s all back to front which leaves them vulnerable to these kinds of scenarios.

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u/Deadguy247365 2d ago

Logically speaking yes but as our citizens have shown, sometimes it's about the feelings and story that motivates their decision. Stories can take a life of its own and people can feel more drawn to the story despite data and reality saying otherwise.

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u/Effective-Produce165 1d ago

A significant number of young incels and misogynist males voted for Trump. Plenty of stupid white misogynist women as well.

Republican women are traitors to our gender.

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u/Former_Project_6959 2d ago

Tik tok probably sealed the vote on the younger adults. Especially with the short attention span all of them seem to have.

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 2d ago

I don't think it was the narrative. It was her performance. James Carville said it himself "after Biden they threw in a 7th string quarter back".

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u/offinthepasture 2d ago

Well, maybe the first string quarterback should have retired before going 0-11 leaving the next in line 6 games to make the playoffs and win the super bowl. 

If you want to use football as metaphor. 

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u/Objective-Storm-1798 2d ago

It was Kamala that had ‘no regrets’ in defending Biden’s capabilities! You all sit here surprised at how this all went down when Republicans predicted how it was all going to unfold long before it did, he was gonna step down for “health reasons” and she was gonna step in…didn’t quite work out though huh?! Anyone with half a brain cell could see what was happening.

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 2d ago

Your probably right. Not my metaphor. It's Carville"s quote. Sound like someone has sand in their vagina

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u/ThreeDogs2963 2d ago

She had four months to try to overcome 10 years of Trump’s blather and the conservative media’s propaganda.

It would have been a miracle.

And apparently we didn’t deserve one.

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 2d ago edited 2d ago

You never seen her speak or do an interview it sounds like. It wasn't that he was that good, it was that she was that bad. And conservative media? ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, BBC, MSNBC, CNN and the Associated Press are left leaning. You think the one right leaning media was able to make that much difference? I love that you blame it on anyone but her. That means the left will just make the same mistakes over again. And I appreciate that

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u/Hairy_Yoghurt_145 1d ago

Liberal leaning*

NPR = Neoliberal Propaganda Radio lol

Remember when they manufactured that Bernie could never win against Trump and platformed Hilary and then again Biden into the role? I remember. 

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 1d ago

That's right about NPR. I also remember that

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u/LegitimatePromise704 2d ago

I can tell you didn't watch the presidential debate.

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 2d ago

Yes I did. Not impressed with snark

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u/Plenty_Conscious 2d ago

Yea she’s got a weird laugh so I’m going to vote for the felon that has bankrupted 6 of his own businesses - we’re gonna stick it to those libs! ‘Murica

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 1d ago

No, it's not the laugh. She just is just incompetent. Her 4 yrs as VP proved it. That's why NBC had to change her answers on their interview. She will go down in history as the most unpopular VP ever. Her poll numbers show that so it's not just my opinion. She was selected no elected to run. It's not that he was that good, it's that she is that bad. And obviously the majority of people, including democrats, saw that she was that bad. But I hope she runs again. That's a big gimme for the GOP. You sound a bit bitter.

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u/Plenty_Conscious 1d ago

lol - claiming she’s incompetent while your guy is tanking the economy world wide, and deporting US citizens without due process.

She was literally elected to be in the line of succession

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 1d ago

He has deported no citizens. Left wing propaganda. I don't have to claim she is incompetent. Her own party did. 😂 I guess you haven't seen the leaks from obama staff. HE claimed she was incompetent and actively back stabbed her. Her staff said she was incompetent. I love the fact you refuse to accept any of that and still blame the right. With all the help from all the legacy media she could not come close to beating the GOP's worst candidate. Let that sink in.

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u/Hairy_Yoghurt_145 1d ago

You do yourselves no favors playing coy and pretending that voting for a candidate with a VP is the same as voting for that VP to be the next presidential candidate. 

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u/BeatlesRule69 1d ago

Ignorant....so you guys call trump orange and all those 3rd grade sayings ypu have but if anyone disses the cackle, watch out! Lol

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u/Plenty_Conscious 1d ago

I’m not dissing his face - I’m dissing his history of ineptitude and his followers repeated gullibility and aversion to believing what is right in front of their eyes.

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u/honest_flowerplower 1d ago

Absolutely no one responded to your Ad hominem about Hariss's laugh.

To be MAGA, one must see a boogeyman in every shadow. I remember when we institutionalized this kind of crazy.

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u/vagabondoer 1d ago

If you think CNN etc are left leaning that’s all I need to know about your arguments.

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 1d ago

Left leaning and fake news. They just lost a multi million dollar lawsuit for broadcasting blatenly fake news. And several other lawsuits have been filed because of their bias reporting. I bet you believe msnbc is non biased too, right?

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u/vagabondoer 1d ago

I didn’t say it wasn’t fake.

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 1d ago

So you admit they are left leaning? And if you admit they are fake news why would you defend them?

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u/vagabondoer 1d ago

Left isn’t the only kind of fake.

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u/Alive_Charity_2696 1d ago

So you are admitting the left is fake news. Thank you.

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u/Mad03hatter 2d ago

There is no conservative media yah cotton headed ninny muggins.

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u/Specialist-Chard-234 1d ago

Okay, okay… far-right media.

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u/johnnybones23 2d ago

yes only smart people noticed the cost of living sky rocketing. the poor people were only fooled by the "narrative".

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u/mckenro 2d ago

You were seeing inflation and wrongly blaming the Biden admin. Now we’re back on the death spiral path. Thanks trumpers.

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u/Humble_Pickle2856 2d ago

The Trump folks are the only ones who understand what's really going on. I just wish the scales could come off the liberals eyes. It just blows my mind how ignorant people can be

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u/Late_Pangolin5812 1d ago

Ha..hahaha!! You meant to add /s am I right???

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u/BeatlesRule69 1d ago

They're fools, no doubt about it. They don't research because that would entail reading something....

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u/Long_Page6599 1d ago

100% Biden's fault.

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u/BeatlesRule69 1d ago

Onama let the stock market crash in 2008. 2nd worst in history. But if course thats ok. He was the greatest! Lol

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u/vagabondoer 1d ago

You are truly a moron. The crash was in the fall of 2008 — you know, while GWB was potus — and Obama was elected that November.

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u/mckenro 1d ago

The 08 crash and first round of bailouts were W dummy.

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u/johnnybones23 2d ago

unfortunately the facts don't agree with you. You have no idea what you're talking about.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/annual-averages-for-rate-of-inflation/?

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u/soccerguys14 2d ago

You haven’t a clue how inflation even works and are ignoring external factors.

u/mckenro is correct and it’s funny you say they have no idea while it is you.

Typical projection

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u/johnnybones23 2d ago

I guess the 8% inflation in 2022 was just imagined. Tell me, what's the weather like in fantasy land?

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u/soccerguys14 2d ago

It’s like PPP loans didn’t happen in 20 and start sloshing around the economy. It’s also like the world didn’t shut down and make global supply chains completely f’ed. It’s also like government spending didn’t occur to save us from the issues of a GLOBAL PANDEMIC. You are looking at this game “the economy” like it’s checkers. I’m here to tell you it’s chess and you can’t simply look at when things occurred and say that president is responsible.

The economy Trump inherited was Obama’s and he juiced it further to keep it going. Biden then inherited trumps and it was garbage and a global pandemic. To look at 2024 inflation rate and disregard it makes you worthless to discuss this topic with as you’ll refuse to use all evidence available.

Edit to add: housing also absolutely EXPLODED. Adding to the 2021 and 2022 rates.

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u/Canthisbeforrezal77 2d ago

Most people are to stupid to get that.

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u/johnnybones23 2d ago

I'm sure Biden's regulation on oil and gas had nothing to do with it... But please, keep defending the Biden economy.

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u/UraniumDisulfide 2d ago

And now you’re strawmanning, like republicans literally do every time. Sure it had something to do with it, but it was nowhere near the primary reason.

Those policies existed for a good gd reason too. Climate change. The regulations were for climate change. Who gives a shit what the inflation rate is if earth is uninhabitable? Burying your head in the sand like republicans do won’t make it go away.

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u/johnnybones23 2d ago

And now you’re strawmanning...

sure it had something to do with it, 

Typical when a democrat contradicts himself and loses the argument in the same breath, lmao. Please explain how curtailing oil and gas will help stop climate change when china and India are doing the most damage. Look, you're never going to win the 'Biden's economy was better argument' 77 million voters disagreed with you.

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u/four4cats 2d ago

What was his regulation on oil and gas that caused gas prices to spike given output increased?... I wonder if there were an event where one of the largest producers in the world would have been restricted from selling their fossil fuels... Something like a war...

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u/Mandurang76 2d ago

When Saudi Arabia and Russia were in a price war on oil, Trump threatened Saudi Arabia he would cut all military support if the Saudis wouldn't cut oil production because the oil price was too low for American shale oil production. This was in April 2020 during the pandemic. When the pandemic was over and the whole world needed oil again, the production couldn't keep up with the demand, causing the oil price to go through the roof.
So, if anyone caused the high price at the tank station and the spike in inflation in the beginning of 2021, it was Trump.
He didn't care about the low price at the fuel station for average Americans, he cared about the profit of the large oil companies. You know the companies that made billions of profit because of the high fuel price a year later and were so willingly to fund his campaign.

https://cepr.net/high-gas-prices-are-donald-trumps-fault/

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u/vagabondoer 1d ago

Biden presided over a record boom in domestic oil and gas.

Try again.

https://www.eenews.net/articles/what-bidens-oil-record-means-for-the-industrys-future/

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u/johnnybones23 1d ago

yeah that's not accurate at all.

A closer look at the 2023 data reveals that many of the permits approved by the Biden administration were granted on land that was leased during the Trump administration. The Biden administration, on the other hand, has held the absolute minimum lease sales possible.

The price of energy even increased during Biden's admin.

https://www.energyindepth.org/why-bidens-oil-drilling-permits-surge-is-not-what-it-seems/

The price of energy even increased during Biden's admin.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_3

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u/Canthisbeforrezal77 2d ago

But it had come back down. So what the hell are you getting at???

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u/Late_Pangolin5812 1d ago

You cannot be this simple!?

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u/johnnybones23 1d ago

you've yet to refute anything stated. Do you even know what you're trying to argue here?

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u/Late_Pangolin5812 1d ago edited 1d ago

Um ok smarty pants - let’s see what happened between 2021-2023 🤷 oh right COVID!! Almost forgot. Considering there was a world pandemic that effected inflation through supply chain tightening and government spending (in every country on earth) toppled by trumps tax cuts enabling corporations to feed off the pandemic inducing inflation 2021-2023 inflation and Trump tax cuts was Biden president then.. yes. Did it matter, yes he was handling it like an adult, spending where necessary (right or wrong) to save our asses. Inflation lowered to about +2.8% in 2024, economy saved from recession, but it wasn’t fun.

Point.game.match.bye 👋

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u/mckenro 2d ago

Every economist worth a shit warned that the trump tax cuts would cause runaway inflation. And they were right. https://gigafact.org/fact-briefs/are-the-trump-tax-cuts-partially-responsible-for-inflation/

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u/johnnybones23 2d ago

you're citing an article written in 2022 blaming tax cuts from 2017 on inflation of 8%. And your own article debunks your assertion. lmao

However, inflation hovered around 2% throughout the first three years of Trump's presidency before declining in 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

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u/mckenro 2d ago

Yeah his nonsense trade war delayed the impacts of his shitty tax cuts.

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u/johnnybones23 2d ago

ahh yes, the ol' 5 year delayed impact tax cut, happens all the time. Look if your going to cite propaganda. At least use propaganda that agrees with you.

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u/mckenro 2d ago

It says right in the article that inflation was steady until trade started to open up after Covid and supply chain issues eased. The economy was plummeting to the point of requiring bailouts under trump- not a lot of buying going on for many reasons. Are you really trying to say that tax cuts combined with pouring cash into the economy via bailouts and loans didn’t inflate prices?

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u/Canthisbeforrezal77 2d ago

I don’t think you can read. Or read correctly. Inflation has come down from it peak in 22, pandemic peak. The American consumer didn’t help spending in a market that hadn’t fully recovered.

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u/Canthisbeforrezal77 2d ago

Skyrocketing, when? It wasn’t skyrocketing. Smart people knew that the pandemic had started the whole thing. And after the vail was lifted the American people went on a spending spree in a world market that had not recovered. Which sent prices higher. That is what smart people know.