What do the Canadian Monarchists think of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition Pierre Poilievre? I personally think he's alright but I wonder what everyone else thinks

[u/Efficient_Put_7562]

[u/Drakkonai]

Dude’s a fucking weirdo. Generally conservative, but the sheer speed with which he’s managed to lose a guaranteed victory is shocking.

[u/WisestPanzerOfDaLake]

This election is the Banker Vs The Wanker.

[u/agekkeman]

he's too pro-american

[u/n2p4]

Decisively not a fan, he is far too populist and he is trying to emulate the success of amercian style populism down south. TBH while I didn't agree with a lot of his positions if Erin O'Toole had maintained the leadership we would all be viewing the Tories a lot more favourably.

[u/Burgundy_Starfish]

He is the sort of man who presents himself as straightforward, but in reality is a web-weaver who is bought and paid for. He is part of a pattern occurring across the world. People are (understandably) tired of the old order, tired of neo-liberalism, and are falling for the trap of supporting people like this man. Look at the history of policy he has supported- he is an oppressor of his own people. What more needs to be said?

[u/Torypianist2003]

Musk’s puppet, he’s a populist who I believe will surrender to the US at the first moment. The monarchists and moderates need to reclaim the Canadian Conservative Party from the populists.

[u/HBNTrader → u/Torypianist2003]

monarchists

Yes

moderates

What is good about being "moderate"? Being allowed to live just a bit longer before it's your turn at the guillotine? The far-left will never stop and surrendering all of your beliefs to it won't help.

[u/citron_bjorn → u/HBNTrader]

The far left are politically irrelevant in western monarchies. The phone has neutralised them. There are still plenty on the right that would see their kingdom become a Republic

[u/Efficient_Put_7562 → u/Torypianist2003]

I'd honestly argue Carney would be more likely to sell us out to the usa than Pierre, him moving brookfield to the usa and whatnot. I should also add that if I recall correctly Poilievre has been talking about distancing Canada from the usa economically and criticising tariffs since before Trump was even elected for a second term (source: https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.6786862 )

[u/Koxinov → u/Efficient_Put_7562]

One of the things that I reallllllly need to say about moving brookfield, is that the decision, as is the case with most companies , lies with the board. Being a member, he had a voice, but having a voice doesn’t mean you control the entire board. There are other board members with differing opinions. Now, let us say that he did say yes. What is the problem there? While being an employee of a company, your aim is to basically maximize shareholder value. His actions were for that reason. If he did this while as prime minister, or while being a candidate, that would’ve been an issue. But as we can see that’s clearly not the case.

[u/Ghtgsite → u/Efficient_Put_7562]

The reality of the Conservative party is that it is and has been the party that has pursued American style political structures and fundamentally a core part of its identity is aspiration towards the United States, largely with the rise of the reform party in the west and its dominance over remains of the PCs.

There's a reason why it was the conservative party that pursued the idea of triple E Senate reform (equal, elected, effective). This is also seen in the fact that the conservative Heartland of Alberta and Saskatchewan are the most receptive towards secession and membership in the United States. This is also seen the fact that polling has consistently shown That of all the parties, an unprecedented 20% of the conservative party supports joining the United States, a whopping 400% increase from the bloc.

This is also seen the way that conservatives are more likely to adopt American stances on social and political issues that have little to do with Canadian norms. This is seen in the way that conservatives often speak about gun ownership, and free speech.

To believe for a second that it would be anybody other than a conservative government that would sell Canada to the United States is pure lunacy and speaks either a deep ignorance or a willful blindness.

[u/Touchpod516 → u/Efficient_Put_7562]

He's critized Trump's tariffs but he's on board with everything else that Trump says or that he's doing. He's even borrowing policies and talking points from Trump. There's a reason why Trump and Musk support him. Because they know Poilièvre will bend the knee to Trump

[u/Ticklishchap]

I am British, but from my perspective he looks more like a right wing populist than a genuine Tory; he also gives the impression of being in thrall to MAGA and probably a ‘culture warrior’. That said, he is not as pure evil as our current Conservative leader or her possible rival for the leadership!

Mark Carney is a man of great talent who steered the Bank of England through a difficult phase post-2016. He showed skill, subtlety and a very good understanding of British politics and history. He values the British connection, including the monarchy, and would I think offer the type of calm but strong leadership that Canada needs at this juncture.

If Canadians do not choose him as Prime Minister, may we please have him on loan to replace Starmer 🤖?

[u/weierstrab2pi → u/Ticklishchap]

Mark Carney is a man of great talent who steered the Bank of England through a difficult phase post-2016. He showed skill, subtlety and a very good understanding of British politics and history.

I mean, those are words one can put in an order for it to make syntactical sense, but that doesn't make them correct.

[u/Adept-One-4632]

Now im not canadian, but from what i gathered i dont think he is the prime minister Canada needs at the moment.

And the polls really show that.

[u/Koxinov]

Honestly, a far inadequate leader for Canada compared to Mark Carney right now. He would’ve done a lot better when Justin Trudeau was still PM, but at a time when there are tectonic shifts in global politics and the economy, he’s just not fit for it.

[u/SelfDesperate9798 → u/Koxinov]

Mark Carney is evil and anyone who supports him is also evil and a threat to Canada.

[u/Koxinov → u/SelfDesperate9798]

Can I hear why you think like that?

[u/SelfDesperate9798 → u/Koxinov]

If you have to ask, I’m concerned for you.

[u/Koxinov → u/SelfDesperate9798]

Well, my opinions may differ from yours, so I want to hear your thoughts.

[u/SelfDesperate9798 → u/Koxinov]

It’s not a matter of opinion, if you genuinely don’t think that’s morally wrong it’s very, very concerning.

[u/Koxinov → u/SelfDesperate9798]

So your saying, that mark carney is evil, and you just know it, + you refuse to elaborate?

[u/vu_john]

I cannot speak for him since I’m not Canadian, but political parties should critique each other to create dialogue that matters the most. Oftentimes, those who feel they belong to the current ruling party may find themselves losing end due to ineffective ability to rule for the people. So they end up losing the favorability of their people in the next political election. Although Canada share the same monarchy as the rest of Commonwealth Realms. What could endanger current monarchies is to create disunity by disrupting the peace and fueling discontent amongst those who believe in their opposition leader instead of the majority leader.

[u/AmazingMusic2958]

Lost faith in this man the moment Trudeau resigned and got replaced by Carney. His greatest strength was because Trudeau was in office. But now Trudeau is gone and replaced by an experienced banker. Pollievre is lost. Doesnt help the fact that the only premier that endorses him is the seditionist known as Danielle Smith who threatened a national unity crisis over petty things when the US was making threats against us.

[u/Sweaty_Report7864]

I think he’s full of it, and a puppet.

[u/ToryPirate]

I have been trying to get a read on his views for a while. I think he is theoretically a monarchist based on this statement:

I congratulate the new king on his responsibilities, and I look forward to serving, here in Canada, all Canadian peoples, as he, too, devotes his life to service. It is with a heavy heart but heartfelt thanks, and with confidence in the future, that I say Godspeed Queen Elizabeth II, God save the King and God bless Canada.

Do note the highlighted section which just comes off as tone-deaf. Using the OpenParliament website I've done a keyword search:

Monarchy - Results One result quoting Burke.

King - Results - He makes a habit of equating kings collecting taxes with greed. Mostly this is about King John but the fact he keeps coming back to it isn't healthy as he is trying to score political points by using the monarchy.

Overall, I'd say he is a monarchist but ultimately he uses any avenue to attack his opponents. If the monarchy provides that route will be balk at using it? Overall, this election is such a mess I've had to start putting pros and cons on a spread sheet to come to an answer on who to vote for. Usually I can get by with talking to the candidates and have a pretty clear idea who to vote for by the mid-point of the election but I really don't like my local Conservative candidate and I swore off the Liberals after they failed to institute a Platinum Jubilee Medal (which was the straw that broke the camels back after a long list of dubious actions regarding the Crown).

[u/Actual-Long-1345]

Ya’ll I just want someone who’s whole opinion is based on a ‘I will do everything in my power’ instead of ‘I promise I will’ and you know someone who will not dystory rights and shit would be cool to

[u/flashbastrd]

He’s great and what the country needs. Genuinely confused that Monarchist “supporters” would be against him, all the other parties secretly or openly hate the monarchy, the empire and colonialism

[u/Crake_13 → u/flashbastrd]

Poilievre repeatedly publicly attacked Trudeau and the Canadian delegation for attending Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral and King Charles’s coronation. Poilievre is a populist, he is willing to attack the monarchy and Canadian culture whenever it fits his need.

[u/flashbastrd → u/Crake_13]

No, he did not. He criticised the expense of attending the funeral and coronation. Namely the $6000 a night suits that the Canadian delegation stayed in.

Stop spreading misinformation.

[u/Crake_13]

There are a thousand and one reasons why Poilievre is a loser and would make a poor Prime Minister. However, this is the monarchism subreddit, so I’ll keep this comment relevant.

Poilievre repeatedly publicly attacked Trudeau and the Canadian delegation for attending Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral and King Charles’s coronation. Poilievre is a populist, he is willing to attack the monarchy and Canadian culture whenever it fits his need.

[u/MrVinland]

He is a callous sociopath

[u/superboringkid]

Canadian here - I’ve always been slightly left-leaning so I do still prefer Carney, but I think he’s alright. The upcoming election will be (in my opinion) a close one and it’ll be interesting to see how these two talented candidates play out. May the best one win!

[u/Touchpod516 → u/superboringkid]

How can you be left leaning and think that this man is alright when he's making it clear that he supports far-right ideas and policies. There's a reason why Musk and Trump endorse him so much. Your statement is so contradictory

[u/BartholomewXXXVI → u/Touchpod516]

"Far-right"

I think you mean basic behavior and traditions that have worked well for hundreds of year. Basically just normal stuff.

[u/superboringkid → u/Touchpod516]

What far right policies? The Tories party values and platforms are nowhere close to the GOPs now. If this was 20 or even 10 years ago I’d argue it would still be rather similar. Have they talked about annexing the US? Crashing the stock market on purpose? Tariffing everything known to mankind? The policies of the Tories appeal to a lot of voters and I can see why.

[u/TheChocolateManLives]

Not really a fan. He’ll go on about how he’s going to sort immigration to a crowd of Canadians, then show up to a crowd of majority Indians and tell them about how he’ll make it easier for their family to come over.

[u/Cyuu_]

The comments are a little odd but I don't like him despite being considered a "conservative" he's a puppet like every choice its an awful election right now because there are no choices for the people or canada

[u/Gavinus1000]

I’m going to be voting for him.

[u/NameBrandosrs]

Anyone that accuses him of being like trump is ignorant

[u/Gravath]

The next PM

[u/ArmyDesperate7985]

Not Canadian, but literally can't get any worse than Trudeau

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Not Canadian,

But literally can't get

Any worse than Trudeau

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Not Canadian,

But literally can't get

Any worse than Trudeau

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[u/mischling2543]

Better than Carney but both are trash

[u/Character-Dance-6565]

The man Canada needs right now but they are sadly dont see it

[u/FollowingExtension90]

Not Canadian but I understand the irony that being a conservative but somehow I have to vote for the left wing party.

[u/FrostyShip9414]

From what I've seen he's better than the last guy but he doesn't strike me as a forceful conservative. I've heard his brand of conservatism is very watered down and his fall in the polls is because people think he is pro-Trump even though he has spoken out against him and Trump endorsed the Liberals lol.