r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 1d ago

Media New Image from 'Avatar: Fire and Ash'

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u/riegspsych325 The ⊃∪⊃⪽ 1d ago

oh man, we’re heading towards “DAE think Avatar not special” season again, aren’t we?

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u/shobidoo2 1d ago

“Something something culture impact” please save us

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u/lsaz 1d ago

If you think about it, very few successful movies have had some sort of cultural impact in the last few years. I remember "Parasite" being a HUGE thing when it came out, but culturally, there's no footprint... no jokes, one-liners, scenes that are copied by other movies, references, or anything like that. It's kinda weird. And is the same with all Oscar-winning movies of the last 10 years.

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u/CultureWarrior87 1d ago

It's because the cultural impact point is completely hollow. Not only is it untrue (billions grossed and starting a trend of 3D movies IS a cultural impact), but it's also pointless. When they say "cultural impact" they mean "it doesn't have a Star Wars level fanbase" but the reality is that that's not important. Fan base size isn't equate to quality. It's a complete non-argument people use because they think it makes them sound smart.

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u/lsaz 1d ago

True, I meant lasting cultural impact, I guess. I'm not talking about fanbases, either.

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u/Accomplished_Store77 16h ago

My best example for this is Inception.

There is no merchandise for Inception. 

No one quotes Inception. 

No one makes memes from Inception. 

No one makes references to Inception. 

No one dresses up like characters from Inception. 

And most people can't name a single character from Inception. 

Per their own logic Inception has no cultural impact. 

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u/Desroth86 6h ago

I’ve made random jokes about things being a dream within a dream and I doubt I’m the only one so I’m not sure if that’s the best example. The whole cultural impact argument for avatar is dumb though I agree.

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u/Accomplished_Store77 5h ago

And I've made jokes about bieng able to plug into my cats brain and figuring out what she's thinking.

But as I said Inception does not fit into the standard of Cultural Impact usually reserved for Avatar. 

Bear in mind I'm not saying Inception doesn't have Cultural Impact. 

You talk about Dreams today and I'm sure someone will mention Inception. 

But it's cultural impact is not visible in the same way Avatars cultural impact isn't. 

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u/Fair_University 1d ago

I think Oppenheimer is the huge exception. But yeah. Most movies don't make a huge impact. And that's OK!

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u/Mother-Emergency-830 15h ago

Heck Avatar has had a larger and more lasting impact than Oppenheimer

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u/Jensen2075 14h ago

The only cultural impact it had were the Barbenheimer memes. After that, we never heard from the movie again.

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u/Fair_University 14h ago

Sorry, I don’t think I agree with that at all. I see it referenced all the time. Maybe that’s just me

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u/jackass_of_all_trade 1d ago

My le bomb..... le killed people?

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u/Fair_University 1d ago

I don’t know but it’s definitely one that people still talk about. Of course it is the third highest grossing Oscar BP winner

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u/lsaz 1d ago edited 1d ago

Really? Never seen any lasting cultural impact from that movie other than memes around the same time it was on Teathers, which is fairly common. I honestly think is more related to the fact that movies are not the main hobby anymore. like back in the 90s or 80s, it was probably the big thing on a Friday night, but that is not the case anymore.

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u/-ImJustSaiyan- 1d ago edited 1d ago

"Something something Dances with Wolves in space"

"Something something FernGully in space"

"Something something Pocahontas in space"

Me intellectual for noticing newer movie has similarities to older movies.

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u/natfutsock 1d ago

Don't worry, if you look, people get just as annoying about Hero's Journey stories. Percy Jackson is greek mythology Harry Potter is British earth Star Wars is space Lord of the Rings is elven Greek mythology.