The saying is one bad apple ruins the bunch, not one bad apple makes the bunch smell bad. Because if you don't take out the bad apple the rot spreads. Any long time cop is guilty of tolerating the bad cops, and that makes them a bad cop too.
Correct take. It’s not that people are mad at all cops bc there’s an occasional bad cop. People are mad that cops protect that bad cop instead of (ironically) self policing. And further, the system protects them and to a certain extent the media does too.
If the apples are capable of calling out a bad cop when they see it, then do it. Otherwise all the apples are implicated in bad apple stuff.
Many police precincts are more like mafia, but their target is tax dollars and in many cases, participation in criminal activity. If members have their doubts, they know the penalty for being a rat. How many police die in mysterious ambushes?
Any "good cop" surrounded by "bad cops" either becomes a bad cop themselves or becomes not a cop. The latter can result from them being harassed into quitting, forced out of the job, forced out of life by coworkers, or "mysteriously abandoned in a dangerous situation".
It's why the system can't be reformed from within. There's no amount of good cops we can dump into precincts that'll somehow overpower what's there. We need people outside of the system who have oversight and control over that system.
The system inherently supports its own abuse by those in power, and if anyone does the right thing, they’re often shamed or sanctioned by others who don’t, and forced out of the system, or forced to join the others in abusing the system. I know people who are working to become police in the US and it’s scary because I’d hate for them to be corrupted by the system, especially if their whole purpose is to help people and prevent the trauma they experienced happen to others.
Not necessarily true, let's assume the force is corrupt and you will get fired for reporting them, then if you do it there's one less good cop on the force, likely to be replaced by a bad cop.
You're not responsible to fix problems you ultimately can't fix, you're not a bad person for walking past homeless people, sure they should receive help and their problem shouldn't be a thing to begin with, but this is the situation.
If you can become a cop and do good for your community, you're absolutely a good cop, especially considering that it's not really an option to go against the department if it means you getting fired, you can't do as much good then.
Heck you're probably taking up a spot of a potential bad cop. Win/Win.
idk man, if i see my co-worker abuse their power over our patient and i dont do anything about it im a bad person. hell, i had a co-worker verbally scream at a patient in front of me some while back and i feel like i failed the pt by not reporting it. cops are known to do way worse shit and their co-workers become complicit.
I understand the feeling of course, it's a basic human response. But if you know for a fact that nothing will change and you will be punished, then what's the point? If you manage to stay you can document things for real change, as well as being a positive influence.
I’m not going to fight you on your weird take. You seem to feel some sort of moral superiority in it. But not reporting a coworker so that you can take up space to be a good guy is crap. The police system is wildly screwed up and instead of taking an honest inventory of all the opportunity for a corruption, you make excuses for them to continue to allow hiding bad cops. This is a such a cop out answer. Actually,this is a COP answer and a weak one at that.
You are so close to getting it I can't decide whether to laugh or cry.
If the only way to prevent rot is to remove the bad apple, why do people like you label the entire bunch rotten instead of digging through them to get rid of the bad apples?
Meanwhile the bad apples are working diligently day and night to get rid of the good apples. They also work to recruit more bad apples, showing those recruits that it doesn't matter what they do, people like you will hate them either way.
because if left to itself the police wont police themselves. i mean do you not remember Derek Chauvin only got prosecuted because of the public outcry despite the department heads watching the video? without public scrutiny the police wont be held accountable.
And nobody is talking about how the police as a profession has a long history of constantly being on the wrong side of history.
Who were the ones breaking up woman's suffrage protests?: The Police
Who were the people breaking up and antagonizing The Civil rights protesters?: The Police
Who are known to antagonize and break up union strikes?: The Police
Who are currently working with the feds to find random immigrants to deport to a dehumanizing south American prison?: The police
You got to remember that up until recently did police perception started to change in their favor. historically police have always been shown in a negative light.
But these are people not apples. People that have families to feed and bills to pay. Cops, unlike most jobs would require you to completely relocate your family to find a new job. You can't just go grab a job with the XYZ competitor down the road if you see something you don't like. I'd also argue you don't go blow up your entire work place every time you see something that you would deem unethical. I'd also bet that if you have any work experience, you know how difficult it is to get someone fired even if you decide to be the squeeky wheel and you're actually in a position to fire someone.
Shitty cops should be punished (arrested, jailed given death penalties. Idgaf to be clear), but to lump every cop together based on the shittiest outlier is what children with no experience in the real world do.
Except in America you can literally murder people and get desk duty or transferred to another department with your record sealed. If it’s so easy to protect dirty cops the same protections could easily be afforded to the good ones.
Do you think this is a solution? It will repeat and maybe on time the police abuse is stopping you and keep you behind bars for a few hours but the next is a fucking gun to the head because reasons.
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u/Callmemabryartistry 1d ago
Nice to see police doing good.