r/oddlysatisfying • u/riri1281 • 1d ago

Beyonce's fan has competition

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u/AccomplishedSwim6560 1d ago

Their hair is majestic

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u/Romanopapa 1d ago

I was looking for the right adjective and “majestic” is perfect.

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u/Own_Significance2619 1d ago

Meanwhile the pronoun is wrong, even though he is a queen 😄

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u/-Appledays 1d ago

Their is gender neutral no?

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u/Own_Significance2619 1d ago

yup, of course. but we know this guy's gender

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u/ClevelandLumberjack 1d ago

Pssst get over it lol

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u/OldDirtyInsulin 23h ago edited 23h ago

No. "They/them" as a singular pronoun is for non-binary people. It isn't a safe option to avoid offending people while you wait to find out their pronouns.

I'm clearly a man, so in 40 years, I'm not aware of anyone referring to me as "they" in such a context. If I'm referred to as "they," I might be offended, like 'am I not masculine?' But I would just realize that the person referring to me as "they" is just a...idk... foolish, I guess?

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u/fiftyseven 20h ago

It isn't a safe option to avoid offending people while you wait to find out their pronouns

it absolutely is tho

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u/OldDirtyInsulin 19h ago

Referring to an individual as "they" is misgendering someone as non-binary. I would be offended if it was done to me.

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u/fiftyseven 19h ago

no... it's not. it's a gender-neutral pronoun and has been used for centuries to refer to people whose gender you don't know. for example if I said "I don't know who owned this car last, but they took great care of it" - it obviously doesn't mean I'm assuming the person is non-binary. it just means I don't know their gender (hey look I just did it again)

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u/OldDirtyInsulin 16h ago

Yeah, but if you saw the person and they were a woman, you would then say, "she", not "they".

But also, if you see a dog running, you wouldn't say, "where are they going in such a hurry?' That's weird. You would say "that dog" or just pick a gender.

The person in this video is a large man with a beard. He's clearly a "he." It isn't more polite to misgender him as non-binary, just to be on the safe side.

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u/fiftyseven 14h ago

again, I reiterate, 'they' does not imply someone identifies as non-binary. it just means we don't know what gender they are. I agree that I would likely refer to the person in OP as he by default and he could correct me if he wished

idk why you brought dogs into it lmao

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u/OldDirtyInsulin 6h ago edited 6h ago

  1. In contexts where a plural pronoun is inappropriate, "they" is only appropriate for someone who is non-binary.

  2. This person is built like a man and has a beard. It would be unreasonable to presume he is not a man (i.e. he, him).

Why do I care? It isn't a huge deal. I just want to make it known that there are people out there who don't want to be referred to as "they, them." I'm one of them.

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u/fiftyseven 4h ago

Re. your point #1, I refer you to my earlier comment where I used the example of a car owner. "They" in this context makes perfect grammatical sense as a singular pronoun, while also making no assumptions about gender identity. It has been used in this manner for a long long time.

#2 is fine, I don't disagree with it. Referring to this person as "he" on appearance basis is fine. If he's bothered by it, and would prefer to be referred to in a different way, he can correct you.

Similarly, if someone refers to you as "they" and you don't want them to, you can correct them.

This is what a pronoun preference is.

(Do you see how I just used singular them again in that second-last sentence, without making any implications about the person being non-binary?)

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