There's a difference between a douchebag and a nazi attempting to overthrow the government. Hell, when the cybertruck launched he hadn't even bought twitter. A lot of people are willing to buy from companies with douchebag CEOs, because douchebag CEOs are literally everywhere.
The preorder was a glorified spotsaver, you only spent a refundable $100 to ensure your spot. If you were paying attention and had any integrity you would have cancelled that preorder before the cybertruck came out.
I feel that if your compass has you in and around whatever it is that nazi’s are all about, douchebaggery is already festered. All nazi s
are Don’s but not all DB’s are nazi’s
Oh we're still calling him a Nazi? Even though all kinds of Jewish leaders have clearly disagreed? Seems like they might be the right people to decide something like that vs everyone taking a video clip of a socially awkward dude out of context.
And lol at attempting to overthrow the government. Shrink the government, sure, which is desperately needed. But ain't nobody overthrowing anything.
And as sometime who has had a Tesla for about five years, they are damn good cars. Honestly couldn't imagine going to something different. Hopefully nobody here drives a Volkswagen, cuz I can only imagine the reaction when they find out who pushed to start that company!
There are plenty of Jewish people that do recognize it as a Nazi salute, and combined with the Nazi jokes and general shithead behavior at the very least the conclusion should be that he doesn't respect people enough to have tact and decency. Other reichwingers have been throwing salutes lately too now though, not great that it is apparently being normalized.
He's a troll, so of course when all of you claim he did a Nazi salute (which he didn't), he's going to make jokes. The guy lives for memes. But he also was there supporting the families of Hamas hostages, including wearing a necklace from one family until their kid came home. Now, call me crazy, but something tells me that a Nazi probably wouldn't really care about an Israeli hostage, and certainly wouldn't wear something given to him by an Israeli family.
I bet you think Biden was in perfect mental health, too?
I don't like having trolls in positions of power disrespecting millions of people. I don't like seeing Nazi salutes behind the seal of the presidency, even if he was 'only le joking'.
I also don't believe a word of the reputation laundering the Israelis are doing because they want an apartheid ethnostate and beachfront resort property.
Weird deflect at the end, Biden wasn't even running, maybe ask your handlers for more talking points that are on topic.
Ha nah, I am happy to keep talking, because again I don't run on a script because I think for myself. I like what Elon has built with Tesla, SpaceX, etc. I think we need someone like him to help us clean up the insane government sprawl and spending. But you know what? I can also say that I think his "ready, fire, aim" approach isn't good. You can't just ctrl-alt-delete and hope it all works.
See? I disagree with things Elon does. But you all will only bad mouth him and not acknowledge anything positive he does. Just want an echo chamber of your own views.
Tesla cars, no. Cybertrucks, well. I don't know about MAGA, but if someone bought a Cybertruck, best-case scenario they're a fucking loser regardless of their political views. I see many of them, and the drivers always seem very proud of themselves and open to a controntation.
Someone who wants a big "green" vehicle thats not a complete pile of shit like the hummer failure?
99.999% of reddit has no clue about anything a cybertruck does, or they'll see a stress test video and go -- SEE THE CYBERTRUCK FAILED AT 10X ITS RATED CAPACITY WHAT A POS!
Meanwhile they understand nothing about what they're talking about.
Musk is an idiot, but he owns a grand total of 13% of tesla now, and tried leaving before the board begged him to stay.
I dunno, if I had the money to waste and Elon wasn't such a douche maybe I'd get one just for the novelty. The thing is fucking weird looking which is fun.
Like, as the tenth useless car you’d buy? Even in its classes it’s not even top 3… ten different trucks I’d buy first, ten different ev’s id buy first, plenty of sports cars.. I’d buy a resto mod of some random classic car, ANY replica of any television/series EVER, hell I’d buy and restore an Oscar Meyer wiener vehicle before I’d but this piece of shit.. no taste, no class, no values…
Yeah, I share the same sentiment. It’s like this generations delorean. Not practical but definitely will be collectible because they’ll be out of production soon.
I really want to buy a cybertruck, I just love weird vehicles. The Vehicross, Lotus Europa, the new Jag type 00, even the Aztec.
While I agree that buying it right now requires a MAGA hat and the ability to huff paint without shame, eventually you've gotta let people just people enjoy whatever they want
I don't condone nor like what the first lady is doing, i hope terrible things for him. But VW, Porsche, Audi, BMW, Ford, Mercedes, Daimler and GM were all involved or collaborated with the actual Nazis. What's the difference? Time?
Kinda, yeah. As far as I'm aware, none of those companies currently have execs that are throwing seig heils while pillaging our government and ushering in fascism and oligarchy. Those were like 80 years ago.
This is why the entire world is in the shitter. One half is trying to regress back 70 years and the other is just screeching wildly in a corner doing nothing useful
And here come the political r/pics bots to tell me everything is everybody else's fault
I have a friend with a cybertruck. He's absolutely not political at all. He's definitely not a loser. He was proud of it because he thought it was crazy and it's fun to drive. I have to say, riding in it was actually pretty fun. It's still ugly as fuck and we all make fun of him, but who cares. He doesn't.
Anyway, someone in a big dodge truck drew a swastika on it and scratched it. Until that moment he had no idea that was a thing.
Ha! He's not. Just something he thought was fun and totally wild. I'm not defending the cybertruck. It's ridiculous. But this is just a mostly regular guy. Makes a decent chunk of money, but not in an evil way. No kids no wife no plans for either and just buys what he thinks is fun.
IDK, most maga people I know, I live in the deep south, love their big Ford F250s etc. They are the last people who would want an all electric truck, especially after for decades hating on liberals for driving hybrids and electric cars.
Damn, another liberal stereotyping an entire group of people based on what they drive??? If the CEO of Toyota gets arrested for trafficking kids, should I have my trucks tires slashed before I can go to work?? Or should I focus my entire life on replacing my vehicle??
I’m in that boat. I love my Model Y, but damn has Elons behavior the past few years really put a stink on it. It’s by far my favorite car I’ve ever owned, and I feel shame driving it. Weird feeling.
Same here with my Model 3. Not a single issue since I got it in 2022, but I’m dumping it for the Rivian R2 as soon as they’re available. Already preordered.
One option is, you could get one of those bumper stickers that says "I bought this before we know Elon was crazy". They're like $7.
It won't actually do anything. Most people are reasonable and understand that buying a Tesla doesn't automatically mean you're okay with what Elon is doing. And the people crazy enough to vandalize your Tesla probably won't be stopped by a cheap bumper sticker. But it would be a good way to say "Yes, I get it, Elon sucks, and I'm not happy about it either."
If you're feeling really spicy, buy some spray paint and write "Fuck Elon" all over your car. Vandalize your own Tesla before someone else does.
Or maybe it might backfire, and the vandal will think "It's already been vandalized, so it's fair game to vandalize it even more."
Yeah me too. I want an electric car but I want range and charging network to easily drive cross country as well as reliability. I know people are going to bash the tesla build quality but they don't just fail (other than the cyber dumpster) like others. I'd fucking love to jump to a competitor. Self driving is a scam and if others had the charging network and 300+ mile range I'd be all over it
And you are a POS. The thinking that vandalizing people’s Teslas is justified is fucked up. Especially since until a year ago it was considered a car only a tree hugging hippie would buy by the far right.
Not everyone can just unload their car and buy a new one.
Teslas are not some super expensive car. I drive a lot for my job. It was actually a super economical car for me.
Just realize by thinking this way you are targeting mostly people that lean liberal. You are attacking the wrong people. And feeding hefty repair bills to Elon.
Not that I need to worry about you anyway. Anyone who spams that a group of people are “permissible targets” on Reddit probably doesn’t leave the house anyway.
Not really. My parents bought a Tesla but we can't afford to get rid of it because of how the lease is set up. It's literally cheaper to wait until the lease runs up.
I own a truck, I use it to go out into the wilderness pretty often; I'm not maga. I know a bunch of people around me who do the same who aren't maga. When you live in the west there's so much to do with so much actual wilderness.
The Ford f150 has been the best/one of the best selling vehicles in America for forever because we fucking love trucks
From left to right on the political spectrum, it doesn’t matter.
It is only an incredibly, incredibly small minority of people in this country that associate driving a truck with being right wing/MAGA, and they’re wrong to do so.
Elon was already cancerous to those paying attention by the time the Cybertruck was even announced. By the time it was released he was trying to overthrow democracy. Not a single Cybertruck owner cares about the environment, and MAGA types tend to like ICE vehicles so whats left is tech bros who are more into Elon than Trump. Which IMO is way slimier than your average MAGA cultist whose just too stupid to know whats going on.
It had a pretty dramatic rise today, but TSLA is lining up well with the rest of the market for today's gains. Everything is down so bad. TSLA is currently sitting at -35% since January which is less than a lot of the stocks I follow. His actions definitely are a driving force. Most of the stocks I follow are only sitting at -10 to -20%. A few are even positive YTD but not by much.
which is why the whole attacking people who drive teslas thing seems so weird to me. Like yeah encourage people to not buy more but mocking people who currently drive them that are very likely on your side politically seems like a terrible idea
The left is notorious for fighting amongst ourselves. The last time we were able to unite and get something done was Obama. And even then, we fell apart in Congress and only just barely managed to pass a heavily compromised ACA.
Meanwhile, all the right-wingers who say they hate Trump eventually fall in line and start kissing his ass.
TBF, very few and far between are buying Cybertrucks on the left side of the aisle. It's a lot less than $80,000 to get you a real truck like a Tacoma.
My grandfather is a MAGA type. Used to drive a truck, but bought a tesla 5+ years ago. I'm not sure which came first, him turning hardcore MAGA or him becoming Elon's number 1 fan.
I am mildly ashamed, but it also helps that everyone and their Mom's have a Tesla in my area, so we're not about to vandalize each other's cars.
We have two Teslas and the only reason we're not getting rid of them is because we have free lifetime charging. A part of me is like "suck it Elon," every time I charge, even though it means nothing to him.
Honestly, I think a lot of people are in a similar boat when it comes to Tesla cars. Many people probably know at least one person they actually like that owns one. The "truck" on the other hand is a newer monstrosity that typically requires a certain type of person to have interest in it. There's no doubt some cyber truck owners aren't like that and have those types of tastes, but yeah.
I’ve debated this in my head over and over, I would love to dump my Tesla in solidarity, but I came to the same conclusion that it makes no sense. It would only hurt me to sell my Tesla at this point, and help someone still willing to buy one by increasing the flood of Teslas on the market. I bought my Tesla during COVID, so I have a 2.75% rate on my car loan. Getting rid of it means I would have to go out replace my car which means making a large purchase in Trump’s economy and signing up for a higher interest rate loan. I would very much rather not do that for both selfish and altruistic reasons. So yeah, still driving the Tesla and just doing my very best to not support the oligarchs or spend money that I don’t need to right now except when it’s going to people I want to support.
It would hurt you a hell of a lot more than it hurts Trump. We all joke about how right-wingers will eat shit just to own the libs. Dumping our Teslas would be the left-wing version of that.
Instead of spending money on a car to replace your Tesla, it would be better to spend that money on one of the many organizations that are trying to fight against President Elon and First Lady Donald. Or even just donate your money to a good cause.
Instead of spending your time and effort shopping for a replacement car, spend that time calling or writing a letter to your local congresspeople.
Or just live your life to the best of your ability. I don't know your circumstances. You may or may not be in a position where you have the time or money or energy to fight against the current administration. As the flight attendant always said, take care of yourself before you take care of others.
I agree with you, it doesn’t pencil out to do something out of principle if it ultimately hurts me financially with no negative impact to the people I care to stick it to. I spend my disposable income at local farmers markets and small businesses, and as you mentioned, supporting organizations fighting the good fight. My focus has been on investing my time and money in my community. That is where I feel I have the most impact and it also gives me some hope, which I desperately need right now!
Yup which makes it even crazier that people think vandalizing these cars hurts Elon. He already got his money and now you want to hurt a person who likely aligns politically with you so Elon will feel bad?
I definitely do, but I still love the car. It really sucks... you're trying to help the environment more, have less out of pocket gas and maintenance costs, and I couldn't ignore the end of year incentives on a used 2022 Y that allowed purchase for a grand total of $36000. Significantly cheaper than the hybrid I was considering...
And yet, now when I go out I am afraid people are going to think I'm pro-Musk and pro-MAGA (especially since they're pushing it to MAGAs right now). The other day I was reading in my car and some mentally unstable guy walked by angrily muttering about how jobs required drug tests and it sounded like he didn't get a job at a local factory. He saw my car and started cursing Musk and tesla owners. He made me really nervous as I was waiting to pick up my toddler.
It's been tempting to return it as an F You to Musk, but my husband would probably kill me as he's wanted one for over 8 years.
IDK why anyone would feel shame about a car they own.
I could not even tell you who the CEO is of any car I've ever owned aside from one. I literally do not care what they do or think or how they run their company or anything else, all I care about when buying a car is whether or not I like it.
I also have no idea why anyone thinks that vandalizing teslas is a good idea. It's like just putting money straight into Musk's pocket.
Also, teslas have cameras and record everything so you'll end up getting caught.
And in case everyone forgot, there's kinda a climate crisis right now and destroying the least impactful cars that could exist (those being already built EVs) really isn't great for that.
Short the stock, boycott buying a new one, protest in front of their stores - those are things elon will feel.
I could not even tell you who the CEO is of any car I've ever owned aside from one.
This is part of the issue with musk going full ketty regard. He is a far bigger part of Tesla's image than any other CEO for any other car company. Noone sees the 4 mercedes rings and thinks of Döllner or the lion badge and think of Jackson, unlike with Tesla.
this is a really weird take especially the climate crisis one. every single good thing an electric vehicle does during its life span for the environment is completely undone by an oil company in seconds. the solution to the climate crisis doesn’t fall on the consumer and directing blame towards them just lets these oil companies off the hook.
i think vandalising teslas is performative and has no real impact but i also think rebranding teslas also has the same lack of impact. also your point about not knowing ceos, there isn’t another car company on earth that’s ceo is as linked to the product as elin musk is. everyone who owns a tesla knows who he is and knows what he’s like and he’s been a huge piece of shit for years.
So you're trying to be meaninglessly pedantic to b dishonestly separate the emissions that the oil industry directly produce, from the emissions produced by burning their product.
That is 100% a piece of shit move by some liar acting in bad faith.
Are personal and other emissions not at all an issue because it's all the oil companies fault?
Or is it the fact that we buy and use things that require oil that causes the emissions?
Because it can't be both and saying that I'm a liar acting in bad faith because I'm pointing out that calling it both is illogical just makes me think you're a jerk, it doesn't prove your point at all.
Don't worry, I'm already well past thinking that about you with your dishonesty and your bad faith argument here.
You trying to separate the carbon emissions caused directly by the oil industry from the emissions caused by the use of their product is bullshit sophistry.
There isn't a single person who bought a cybertruck because of environmental concerns. It was loyalty theater, they bought it because they are obsessed with Elon Musk, either out of a belief that he is Sci-Fi Space Jesus or as a Cryptobro figurehead.
I know a person who bought one. Far left voter. Bought it because they thought the meme was funny and they like cyberpunk stuff. They wanted an electric vehicle too. And frankly he had enough money that he doesn't have to worry about big purchases like that.
I'd reckon there are a lot of people that bought it because of reasons like that. Probably far more than there are people on the far right who are fan of cyberpunk electric vehicles.
I could not even tell you who the CEO is of any car I've ever owned aside from one.
I think it's entirely reasonable to only know about the one car CEO who did two back-to-back Sieg Heils on national TV. On top of that:
...all I care about when buying a car is whether or not I like it.
Modern cars are far more connected, and Teslas in particular are far more dependent on the company behind them to keep working. Everything from remote-start to your ability to take a road trip depends on Tesla-the-company staying competent.
So this CEO in particular actually has some impact in "whether or not I like it", and can even have that impact over time.
I agree that vandalizing Teslas is dumb. But you really can't imagine why someone would regret their purchase now? Especially if they bought them for the climate crisis?
I didn't say anything about cybertrucks. Wouldn't that support my argument about Tesla owners regretting their purchase, and that it's dumb to vandalize the individual vehicles?
But fine. Where did you get five years from? It was planned to launch in 2021, but the first models weren't delivered until November of 2023, which is about a year after "My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci" and a year or so into the Xitter shitstorm. That's the kind of public attention that, again, most car CEOs tend to avoid.
Yeah, a lot of these vandalisms of cars are a felony amount of damage. Not really gonna get sympathy from the judge when they sentences you to prison just because you hate Teslas CEO.
You're missing a huge portion of what makes up the modern MAGA demographic. It's not just rednecks and evangelicals. It's AI techbros, angry "gamergate" losers, and wannabe podcast influencers - all the people who are on the forefront of new technologies.
You are absolutely right but I don’t feel any shame about it. I bought the car for the right reasons at the time. Maybe that makes me an asshole but if you are an average consumer in a capitalist society, you are constantly supporting companies with unethical practices. Most of us still use iPhones and don’t plan on rebranding them or boycotting. While Elon has turned out to be quite the schmuck, Tesla is still made up of some really hard working and honest people who put their best efforts and livelihoods into the success of these cars. I support those people not Elon (yes I know he benefits the most but I can’t change that part, already bought the car).
Hating electric cars is I think the regular low income MAGA voter and anyone involved in oil
There is a certain subset of rich MAGA who have no issue with electric cars, particularly techbro types who love Elon Musk. Those are also the types who can afford to buy Cybertrucks in particular.
So I would say yeah most Tesla owners aren’t MAGA types but Cybertrucks? Fuck those people.
> You think most of the Teslas that have been sold to this point have been to MAGA types?
I mean I feel like on reddit, most people believe that lol. Which is sort of crazy because the left were the ones buying, and still most likely driving, Tesla's that aren't cybertrucks. (Since EV's in general were a whole green-initiative)
Exactly. Tesla was the dems choice of car up until right after Covid……. People are having their vehicles damaged by people that share their ideals. MAGA doesn’t drive teslas 🤷🏻♂️
The craziest part to me, is that they’re the reason they lost the election. I know so many democrats that switched sides or didn’t vote at all and it’s cause of this whole insane “woke” crowd. The rioters and looters and vehicle destroyers are the problem. They don’t wanna say stuff to people’s face, they’d rather hurt their vehicle. It’s weak and cowardly, but at this point, it’s not surprising.
So if GEN-Z is mad about Trump, they can blame themselves.
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u/trentreynolds 23d ago
You think most of the Teslas that have been sold to this point have been to MAGA types?
Those people absolutely hated electric cars like a year ago.
I'd venture a guess that MOST people who own a Tesla right now in 2025 feel some shame about it. Could be wrong.