r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 20h ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/DmAc724 19h ago

Yup! Would be great to see the 6 states of New England band together to do this. And throw in NY for good measure.

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u/Snow_source District Of Columbia 19h ago

I feel like PA, MD, NJ and DE would be interested in joining if this all kicks off. Wait until next year and you could get VA in there too once Youngkin leaves office.

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u/boo_jum Washington 19h ago

Pennsylvania seems like it may be a stretch? I know there are deep red parts of the state (and that “Pennsyltucky” is a thing for a reason)

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u/Snow_source District Of Columbia 19h ago

Yeah, it might be tough but they have Shapiro and one chamber in the lege. I think the Pennsyltucky parts of the state would try to secede like what WV did back during the civil war.

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u/boo_jum Washington 19h ago

Fair point.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 17h ago

California is a stretch.

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u/boo_jum Washington 17h ago

California has clout -- both economically (being one of the biggest economies, globally), and agriculturally.

But, California is also not nearly as 'deep blue' as folks think, which could be the point you're making. California has concentrated deep blue pockets, and enough of a population in those places to pull the state blue in federal elections, but it definitely has a lot of deep red places (and some of those places, like Orange County, have a lot of money).

And California gave us Nixon and Reagan, and there are a lot of Californians who aren't actually ashamed of either of those legacies.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 17h ago

It doesn't have that kind of clout.

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u/1of3destinys 17h ago

We Marylanders have a Dem super majority and thousands of federal workers who were laid off. Whatever side deals are made, I hope we're included. 

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u/Fieldexpedient2 17h ago

New England +NY and NJ are close to CA in GDP.

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u/Larovich153 17h ago

I wish, but we have that idiot Ayott for the next year and a half, the Merrimac Valley though would absolutely join you

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u/sarges_12gauge 12h ago

Yeah how did Brexit work out?

Jesus I can’t tell what percentage of people are just emoting out, how many are genuinely stupid, and how many are bad faith actors purposefully trying to spread this shit

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u/ExtremeModerate2024 19h ago

upstate new york might as well be alabama or mississippi.

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u/1of3destinys 17h ago

What's up with the confederate flags in upstate New York? Why don't they move to a state that actually joined the confederacy? 

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u/nysflyboy 16h ago

Has nothing to do with the south, its a dog whistle for racism, nazism, and MAGA now. Most every time I see one on the back of a pickup, there is a "TRUMP" flag on the other side. And usually some punisher stickers and often nazi code stuff like "88" or the Aryan fist sticker.

25 years ago, it was just a "I'm a proud redneck" thing (thank the Dukes of Hazard for that) and might have been mostly innocent. Not anymore.

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u/PaperTigerFolds 13h ago

This might come as a shock (though it really shouldn't) but a lot of America is pretty racist, just more so out of cities.

When PoC moved into urban centers, whites fled to the suburbs and rural areas around them.

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u/nysflyboy 16h ago

I live there. Surrounded by very red farmers on the edge of a small but pretty "blue" city.

I will say, over the past week, a LOT of republicans that I know have started spontaneously complaining and expressing their displeasure and confusion around "whats going on". Many of them are not happy. These are the "traditional republicans" who only voted for Trump (2x) because of "traditional values" or hating mexicans, or because "camel toe" or they actually bought that a "business man" would be good for the US. Not the truly cultish MAGA nazis, which are still flying their flags.

My point being, at least some of them are starting to realize regret. The others are lost cause, but when the less cultish ones get hit in the wallet, they are starting to wake up. Even my mother who is all in on the orange menace, said "well, I didn't know he would do this, maybe I made a mistake". I about passed out.