r/politics New York 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/DazMR2 1d ago

And Illinois.

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u/Eagle4317 1d ago

And New England.

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u/DmAc724 1d ago

Yup! Would be great to see the 6 states of New England band together to do this. And throw in NY for good measure.

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u/ExtremeModerate2024 1d ago

upstate new york might as well be alabama or mississippi.

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u/1of3destinys 1d ago

What's up with the confederate flags in upstate New York? Why don't they move to a state that actually joined the confederacy? 

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u/nysflyboy 1d ago

Has nothing to do with the south, its a dog whistle for racism, nazism, and MAGA now. Most every time I see one on the back of a pickup, there is a "TRUMP" flag on the other side. And usually some punisher stickers and often nazi code stuff like "88" or the Aryan fist sticker.

25 years ago, it was just a "I'm a proud redneck" thing (thank the Dukes of Hazard for that) and might have been mostly innocent. Not anymore.

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u/PaperTigerFolds 1d ago

This might come as a shock (though it really shouldn't) but a lot of America is pretty racist, just more so out of cities.

When PoC moved into urban centers, whites fled to the suburbs and rural areas around them.

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u/nysflyboy 1d ago

I live there. Surrounded by very red farmers on the edge of a small but pretty "blue" city.

I will say, over the past week, a LOT of republicans that I know have started spontaneously complaining and expressing their displeasure and confusion around "whats going on". Many of them are not happy. These are the "traditional republicans" who only voted for Trump (2x) because of "traditional values" or hating mexicans, or because "camel toe" or they actually bought that a "business man" would be good for the US. Not the truly cultish MAGA nazis, which are still flying their flags.

My point being, at least some of them are starting to realize regret. The others are lost cause, but when the less cultish ones get hit in the wallet, they are starting to wake up. Even my mother who is all in on the orange menace, said "well, I didn't know he would do this, maybe I made a mistake". I about passed out.