r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/Am_I_AI_or_Just_High 1d ago

Since Cali is has a bigger economy than nearly every other country, this is very possible and will make trump look even dumber. Also you don't need GPT to calculate "no more tariffs"

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u/Bruce-7891 1d ago

I'd love this but it sounds illegal as F. A tariff is a tax and a state can't independently decide it's not going to participate in federal taxes.

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u/No_Anxiety285 1d ago

Wild to consider legality with this administration

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u/Bruce-7891 1d ago

And you think the ability to break the law extends to you or anyone else outside of the administration? That's wild to think.

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u/No_Anxiety285 1d ago

You think only one party is allowed to break the law and the rest of us have to follow it to a t?

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u/ImBackAndImAngry 1d ago

I’m tired of dems and blue states trying to play by the rules when the GOP is actively ignoring them. Good on CA. Hopefully they inspire more blue donor states to do the same.

Is it a good thing to abandon rules? No. Obviously not. But playing by the rules while actual fascists ignore/rewrite them as needed is fucking useless too.

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u/Bruce-7891 1d ago

Yes. It isn't a matter of what I think. It's a fact. Unless you have congress, federal judges, the DOJ and FBI backing you, you can't. If you think you can, go ahead, go out and commit a crime.

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u/No_Anxiety285 1d ago

You ever speed?

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u/RelaxPrime 1d ago

They going to arrest California or something?

What you seem to fail to realize is Trump is already speed running a constitutional crisis.

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u/Bruce-7891 1d ago

"They going to arrest California or something?"

Wow... It would most likely be people working for customs who are supposed to be enforcing import policies. Did you actually think about it before asking that?

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u/RelaxPrime 1d ago

So the federal government employees- customs agents- are going to break the law now?

What are you even talking about Bruce-7891?

Just spinning your wheels.

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u/Bruce-7891 1d ago

"Just spinning your wheels."

Literally what you are doing. Once these tariffs go into effect, choosing not to collect and pay them would be illegal. You are straight up making up stuff up.

You asked if California would be arrested for F***s sake. No the state isn't getting arrested the people in the State who were refusing to pay a federal tax would. You high right now?

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u/RelaxPrime 1d ago

That is the dumb shit you said.

CA doesn't have to go along with the feds, theres nothing the feds can do the state, i.e. no of course they can't fucking arrest CA.

So like everyone has already said, Cali can happily go tell the federal government to go fuck themselves- any way they see fit.

Only you were the ignoramus saying the feds are going to arrest people. Who? Their own agents?

As I said, you are spinning your wheels- making up bad faith arguments. The federal government depends on the states. Not the other way around, well unless they're a red state typically getting more in funding than their tax base pays.

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u/thats_so_over 1d ago

If you got the money it seemingly does and Cali has the money

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u/DDRaptors 1d ago

Why the fuck wouldn’t it? If the leader of your country doesn’t follow federal law - the rule of federal law is fucking moot everywhere. 

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u/Bruce-7891 1d ago

"the rule of federal law is fucking moot everywhere."

Go ahead, break the law then. I'm not stopping you.

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u/DDRaptors 1d ago

I do everyday.