r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/Archer1407 1d ago

Trump is going to launch a trade war against California in the next few days.

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u/PNDMike 1d ago

Hey Californians - secede and come join us in Canada. We have healthcare and numerous trade deals with other countries/markets in place, tarriff free. We also have water, and Trump just dumped your water.

In exchange, we get to come hang out in the warm weather during the cold winter months.

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u/flieger 1d ago

While I understand and appreciate this sentiment, the thought of millions of California Republicans joining Canada keeps me up at night. These morons voted for the orange turd and we can't let that stupidity be part of us.

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u/MC_White_Thunder 1d ago

Don't forget the tens of millions of guns that would be within our country.

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u/cats-n-cafe 1d ago

California has among the lowest rates of household gun ownership in the US. And it’s actually less than several provinces in Canada.

The red counties in CA are not highly populated, remember the reason California is Blue is because land area doesn’t vote, people do, and most live in concentrated civic centers. Liberal California’s could not care less about those who complain and want to move to Idaho, Texas, etc. those states can have them!

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u/MC_White_Thunder 7h ago

California may have a lower rate of gun ownership than some provinces in Canada, but their total population is close to Canada's itself. Even if it's only 10% ownership, that's 4 million Californian guns, compared to 20% ownership in a province of 1 million meaning 200k guns.

Plus, many guns allowed in the states are severely restricted in Canada, such as handguns.

And same deal with MAGA republicans— if we have millions of them now within our borders, high on conspiracy theories and refusing to give up their guns, it's an obvious security concern. They haven't chosen to move to Idaho or Texas yet, why would I trust they would do it in this case?

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u/SpottyNoonerism 1d ago

How about we relocate them to Alberta? They'd fit in great.

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u/Crimson_Caelum 8h ago edited 8h ago

California actually has the most republican voters of any state but that’s mostly because it has about 10 million more people than any other state

The bigger problem is California would absolutely dominate Canadian provinces. It alone would be nearly as big as the rest of Canada combined by population and its economy is nearly twice the size. If it joined unless it was some kind of non represented vassal, Canadians would be under represented in their own country. Based on voter turn out by both California and Canadas last elections about 48% of Canada’s cast votes would be Californian. Any prime minister would have to spend a massive amount of time trying to win California. It would probably be better to start a trade organization lol

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u/ROBO--BONOBO 1d ago

We’d give you more left leaning people than right leaning though

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u/Cyouni 1d ago

Respectfully, your left leaning people are in our right.

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u/ROBO--BONOBO 1d ago

Good point, I forgot about that. Maybe because the circles I spend time in are much more progressive than run of the mill democrats

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u/seriouslees 1d ago

Barely. You voted 40% MAGA.

And California has a population of 40 million... that's 16 MILLION delusional cult member racist bigots championing fascism.

Fuck all the way off.

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u/WilliamPoole 1d ago

66% to 34% with a lot of idiots not voting because they knew Harris would win.

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u/seriouslees 1d ago

3% of 40 million is too many. Not a single bigot or fascist is welcome. You can all apply to immigrate individually.

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u/LusciousCabbage 1d ago

There would likely be an exodus into and out of California if this were ever actually on the table. A significant portion would leave.

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u/seriouslees 1d ago

It will be significant enough only when we would be importing less bigots than we already have. 16 million fascist bigots would increase our supply by like.. ten fold. When less than 5% of a state are red voters, we can talk.

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u/virtualRefrain 1d ago edited 1d ago

Man I get we're all hot about this stuff, but why are you telling that Democrat to fuck off? They weren't even talking to you and you just bitch them out in the rudest possible language? That's a crazy aggro place to go in an otherwise polite conversation. Like we're all on the same side here, that's why we're here lol. Save some for the bad guys

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u/seriouslees 1d ago

Individuals are welcome on a case by case basis. I'm not telling individual "democrats" to fuck off, I'm telling an entire state as a collective to fuck off. California, as it is, is NOT welcome.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 1d ago

Man I get we're all hot about this stuff, but why are you telling that Democrat to fuck off? They weren't even talking to you and you just bitch them out in the rudest possible language?

Because we're Canadian, and we're on, like, month three of being threatened with violent annexation by Trump, while anti-Trump Americans shrug it off as a joke and get mad that we're booing the anthem in protest while they sit on their hands and do nothing to stop this bullshit. As someone else succinctly summarized, "He might not be your fault, but he's your responsibility."

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 1d ago

The handful of billionaires in the Bay Area who are helping to fund all this mess offsets what meagre Progressive bonafides you provide.

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u/Terrahawk76 1d ago

Excuse me, you already have Alberta don't you? You know what it's like.

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Canada 1d ago

We do. So why do you think we'd want more of that?

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u/Terrahawk76 1d ago

Half a joke, half saying no place is monolith of belief.