r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 20h ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/Qubeye Oregon 19h ago

I'm not saying that is what they are planning to do.

My comment was meant to be more of a "I casually came up with a way to do it without violating the constitution."

I'm sure if I put more than thirty seconds of thought into it I could come up with even more robust, legitimate ways to do it.

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u/cjicantlie 18h ago

If the tariffs weren't enacted constitutionally, is it unconstitutional to bypass them?

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u/TraditionalClick992 Canada 17h ago

No, but that would end up in the courts very quickly. And I really doubt SCOTUS would say it's unconstitutional, especially not this SCOTUS.

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u/Exocoryak 7h ago

Executive Orders have the power of law, even if they appear to be unconstitutional. If they are not stricken down by the courts or revoked by an Act of Congress, they have the full power of a federal law.

Compare it to chess. Someone might play an illegal move, but if the opponnent doesn't see it and makes his move, it becomes a legal move afterwards, even though it technically was an illegal move at the time it was played.

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u/gouramiracerealist 6h ago

Tariffs are at the purview of the executive fyi

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u/Neve4ever 5h ago

Congress. But congress delegated it to the executive, like they have with most things.

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u/gouramiracerealist 5h ago

Yea, so the executive

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u/chronicpenguins 4h ago

But congress can take it away, constitutionally it’s their power.

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u/gouramiracerealist 4h ago

Yea sure. It's more likely trump gets impeached than the executive is reigned in

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u/firestepper 16h ago

lol you’ve already put more thought into this than trump did with his tariff policy

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u/LeavesCat 13h ago

I mean didn't he just throw it at ChatGPT?

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u/quartzguy American Expat 16h ago

"I casually came up with a way to do it without violating the constitution."

I wish Donald could do that kind of thing.

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u/themonkeysbuild 17h ago

And it’s safe to assume that those in the state gov are also putting more than 30sec into it, lol.

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u/HorlicksAbuser 16h ago

You are now responsible going forward. When can we expect your next update?

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u/LazarusCrowley 18h ago

Law school?

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u/ultimatt42 18h ago

Might take longer than thirty seconds

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u/dawtips 17h ago

So you just made stuff up. Got it.

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u/Qubeye Oregon 16h ago

Yes, I made stuff up using the powers of education, which I got from applying myself over the course of several years to earn my Bachelor's in Political Science & Government.

Admittedly, I didn't actually need to complete the degree to know this, because separation of powers and Federal & State authority is taught in the first year classes.

I could have also done it by reading the Constitution and some basic texts from the library on the subject, too.

But also, I did go to college specifically for political science, a degree which is pretty much only useful for knowing stuff like this.

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u/nabiku 17h ago

Then use a legitimate source to correct them? What is even the point of your comment otherwise?

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u/GaiaMoore California 17h ago

That's like saying "separation of powers" is a made up concept

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's inherently wrong