r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 20h ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/rataculera 18h ago

I have been saying for years that Trump is going to cause the west coast to form their own state. Eastern oregons movement to join Idaho is a kick starter

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u/TinFoilBeanieTech 18h ago

Wait until they find out how dependent Idaho is on the blue states.

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u/sn34kypete 17h ago

Pan handle Idahoans are already reliant on eastern WA for medical care. They flooded Spokane's hospital during covid and now that their hospitals are losing OBGYN and delivery teams, people are having to drive for hours to get proper medical care just to have a kid safely.

Of course when confronted with this, they're very proud of how smart they are for finding a solution for themselves, not a moment's introspection on how they got into this mess.

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u/Repulsive-Row803 17h ago

I work at a hospital in Spokane. It's incredibly frustrating. We would never want to deny care based on ethics alone, but it's hard to listen to people shit on where you live while also taking advantage of the resources you provide that they vote against.

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u/TehMephs 14h ago

While also rejecting the advice of those same doctors, denying they have a disease that’s very obviously the disease they have, and then thanking GOD for getting them through it so they can go back home and fantasize about murdering all those “corrupt liberal doctors” that saved them

Why don’t we deport these loonies instead? They refuse to live in the same reality as everyone else

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u/ostligelaonomaden 5h ago

What's their skin color? There's your answer

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u/QueenCity_Dukes 10h ago

The hypocrisy is the thing. They want services for themselves but not for anyone else.

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u/Sunbunny94 13h ago

Sounds like the typical rude American traveler.

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u/glenn_ganges 18h ago

This is exactly what conservatives want. People don’t get this. They want governments to fail so we can return to a kind of feudalistic society where corporations have control.

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u/Emilia_Violet 17h ago

People do get it, it just doesn’t matter. Certain members of the regime may want states to break apart so they can try to take control, but that doesn’t mean they actually get control. If the west coast broke off to ally with the rest of the sane world, I don’t think that puts the ones causing problems in a good position to seize control.

I’m not advocating for or against secession, but rather making the point that people are aware of what you’re saying, they just may not agree that the outcome will be the bad one.

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u/Ptricky17 17h ago

I am also not convinced that a secession plan would be the worst thing for North America.

It’s clear that there is a deep divide in America, and honestly the roots of it go back hundreds of years. Half the country wants to be a religious (Christian) state with a return to segregation and 1950’s equivalent gender roles. The other half wants to live in the 21st century with an advanced, technology and service based economy, a tolerant multicultural society, and strong education.

Rather than continuing to fight with each other over the disagreement, it kind of makes sense to just split up so both sides can be happy. Of course, I predict that “Red America” will quickly become jealous when they realize they are poorer than “Blue America”, and that will only get worse the more they shun education in favour of religion, but hey “thoughts and prayers” right?

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u/Dogllissikay 17h ago

Cities are blue in pretty much every state, so dividing states would leave a whole lot of “Blue America” trapped.

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u/Catgeek08 13h ago

As a person that lives in Boise, one of the many reasons I want to move is this. I don’t want to be trapped here when Oregon is tired of Idaho’s fuckups.

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u/rgaya 17h ago

I'm sitting here in Miami thinking fuck that shit

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u/Syntaire 11h ago

It is what they want, yes. It will not go how they dream it will. Reality is not a fantasy novel or video game where you can just say "I claim this land in the name of Dipshittia" and suddenly become a fully functional city-state accepted and respected by the world at large.

Their entire fantasy plan is fundamentally flawed in just about every possible aspect. They will probably get as far as dismantling the US, but that's where they'll slam face first into reality.

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u/daaave33 Virginia 18h ago

Can we come too?

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u/Infinite-Speaker286 17h ago

The Northeast and West Coast, along with Canada, can surround the other states, and push them all into Florida

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u/BikingThroughCanada 17h ago

And then we get Bugs Bunny to handle the rest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTa7OHEpyns

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u/thequeenzenobia 17h ago

Well, but the eastern Oregon thing wasn’t trump related. They’re super conservative and want to be connected to red Idaho instead of Oregon

Edit: and have been trying to join for years and years

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u/absentmindedjwc 16h ago

Cries in Illinois.

I would love it if we were to join the NCR, but there are too many dumb states between here and there. Maybe Michigan, Wisconsin, and Illinois can all just join Canada. (assuming they'll have us)

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u/AlarmingAffect0 17h ago

Pah, I suspect the Western Oregonians are just fine with all the racism at least.