r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/Archer1407 1d ago

Trump is going to launch a trade war against California in the next few days.

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u/Snow_source District Of Columbia 1d ago

I was thinking the endgame here from the current regime is to balkanize the US between Blue and Red states.

I really don't want to be right.

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u/CanadianTrashInspect 1d ago

It doesn't even make sense because the divide is very much rural vs urban. Even California and New York - which are held as examples of big Blue States - are 38% and 43% Republican.

Both those states have extremely red regions outside of the cities. So it's unlikely that those people would side with the Democratic state government over the Republican feds.

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u/Meta2048 1d ago

It's rural vs urban, but that's not the whole story. A NY Republican is a lot more liberal than an AK Republican. A WV Democrat is more conservative than a CA Democrat.

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u/fiah84 1d ago

it's almost as if the entire political spectrum can't be pigeonholed in two parties, and any political system that results in just two viable parties is inherently unstable

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u/BoutTreeFittee 1d ago

I think a WV Democrat might be more conservative than a NY Republican

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u/glassjar1 Virginia 1d ago

Really depends upon the WV Democrat. The state has some true progressives. So do places like UT, ID, and Mississippi.

There is a serious divide--even within states.

WV even has a pro-labor, anti-racism, socialist past. (back a hundred years ago--and even then it was polarized to the point of guerilla warfare)

I'm old enough to remember the state being reliably labor democrat in my adult lifetime.

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u/EnigmaForce Oklahoma 1d ago

Even Oklahoma had a Democratic Governor up to 2011.

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u/atomfullerene 1d ago

I live in Rural CA and the conservatives here are absolutely not more liberal than the ones back home in TN.

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u/xylophone_37 21h ago

Ya I'm in eastern San Diego and folks out here in the hills are pretty damn red.

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u/Fresh_Side9944 1d ago

I'm from western NY, there are plenty of rural NY Republicans that are just the same as my husbands side from KY.

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u/CanadianTrashInspect 1d ago

They say that - but they still voted for Donald Trump. They're pretty fucking conservative.

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u/inconspicuous_male 22h ago

That's not true at all. Rural NY can be as conservative as Wyoming 

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u/Jon_TWR 7h ago

I've seen Confederate flags being flown in upstate NY.