r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

Same. Here in Massachusetts.

The blue states should secede. On our own or in some kind of partnership with Canada (United States of Canadia?). The red states are an anchor around our neck. We need to cut them loose.

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u/tamman2000 Maine 1d ago

Secession would be really difficult, with how intertwined the states are, and federal facilities being spread out all over, etc...

I would love to see a coalition of blue states form. The coalition could create agencies independent of the federal government to backfill all the functions that Trump is taking away.

But if states do start to leave. I really hope my blue tinted, but not solid blue state joins

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u/SharpCookie232 1d ago

Well Trump's closing a lot of the federal facilities, so that solves that problem.

I agree that we should chose what to fund ourselves. I want to properly fund our national parks, libraries, museums, and social safety net, but I don't want to pay federal taxes and then pay a second time through the state. That's taxation without representation. We need to withhold our federal taxes and I don't think Trump will take that well - his whole administration is just a tax grab.

Secession seems like the only way to go.

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u/tamman2000 Maine 1d ago

I think the coalition I mentioned is a first step down that road. It's hard to withhold your federal taxes when the federal government is in the banks and the taxes are predominantly taken by withholdings from paychecks. If the blue states create a parallel, but regulated with the consumer in mind, banking system, then it's harder for the feds to get our money against our will