r/politics • u/sweatycat New York • 1d ago

California to Negotiate Trade With Other Countries to Bypass Trump Tariffs

https://www.newsweek.com/california-newsom-trade-trump-tariffs-2055414
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u/Nevermind04 Texas 1d ago

While that's true, section 3 of the 14th amendment doesn't require a person to lead an insurrection to become disqualified from holding public office. It only requires one to "engage" in insurrection, regardless of what exact role they played in it. Every J6 terrorist is similarly disqualified.

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u/Nevermind04 Texas 1d ago

Please, enlighten us as to why you believe the word "terrorist" doesn't apply to the group that unlawfully entered the capitol on January 6, 2021, shouting slogans and waving signs expressing their intentions to murder politicians, which eventually ended with 174 injured police officers, 5 dead police officers, and 4 dead participants.

terrorist
noun

a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

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u/tdager 1d ago

Look, I am not fan of trump and am glad that those that hurt police officers were held accountable, but outside of a small group of people the vast majority that entered the Whitehouse were simply in "mob mode" and had not intention, nor capability, to overthrow the US government.

So no, they were not terrorists, and IMO we toss that word around way to easily (including the current administration).

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u/Nevermind04 Texas 1d ago

Which part of that definition does not apply to the "mob" on January 6th?

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u/GrunchJingo 22h ago

had not intention

Dog, they stormed the fucking capitol, rooted through politician's desks, and were on a hunt to murder those politicians. What could their intention have possibly been other than to overthrow the US government?

the vast majority that entered the Whitehouse were simply in "mob mode"

They were in a mob to overthrow the government and install Trump as dictator. It doesn't matter that that's not how any of this works. That was their intention, that's why they were there, that's why they stormed the capitol.

Like, listen, I don't even think the word terrorist should exist. I think it's used to deprive people of human rights and make people ignore any crimes against humanity the state commits against them.

But given every single piece of evidence, how can you possibly claim that the J6 insurrectionists did not aim to overthrow the government?