r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 16h ago

Soft Paywall Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-breaks-silence-on-trumps-unimaginable-presidency/
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u/jtsa5 16h ago

If anyone else other than Trump did anything wrong it was like the world was ending. When it's Trump everyone has kid gloves on.

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u/gatsby712 16h ago

That’s because no one trusts what Trump says, even his supporters. It’s literally what a supporter of his said to me when the tariffs were first talked about weeks ago. “Oh he won’t go through with it.” So you are okay supporting someone who will lie to you. Okay 

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u/parasyte_steve 15h ago

They knew he wasn't lying about the racism and that was the important part

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u/Kyrthis 15h ago

Ding, ding, muthafuckin’ ding!

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u/HistoryChannelMain 10h ago

And banning all 10 trans athletes in the country from competing in women's sports, a thing Americans have always taken very seriously.

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u/AnnualZealousideal27 2h ago

They don’t mind sending us back 150 years as long as we go all the way.

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u/hippopotabear 14h ago

the funny thing about all this— I know someone who works on Wall Street, before the election I had asked, “so what are people in your land worried about?”

turns out all the finance people were already freaking about tariffs because for some reason Trump, who believes almost nothing, truly believes in tariffs, and has been harping on this since the 80’s.

it’s been surreal watching this all play out over the last few months.

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u/TAYSON_JAYTUM 10h ago

Trumps been in politics for 10 years now and it’s been nonstop saying and doing incredibly stupid things. These tariffs are the most predictable thing in the world.

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u/Giga_Gilgamesh 12h ago

Literally the only ideological value they have at this point is 'owning the libs.' if it hurts the people they hate they're fine with it hurting them too. They will eat shit so you have to smell their breath.

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u/gatsby712 12h ago

That’s the dumb voters. The leadership pretty clearly put out Project 2025 and it’s incredibly unpopular. 

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u/Spiritual-Society185 13h ago

Someone said during the election something like "Trump is the first candidate in history whose supporters hope he doesn't keep his promises."

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u/tasman001 5h ago

That is actually an extremely sobering and upsetting thing to consider.

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u/Kana515 3h ago

I saw it once as,

Democrats to their politicians: "I hope he does what he said he'd do."

Republicans to their politicians: "I hope he doesn't do what he said he'd do."

Like, who is forcing these people? If somebody walked up to me and said, "Hey, if you give me a gun, I'll shoot you." I'm not gonna hand them a gun and say, "You better not shoot me..."

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u/kawhi21 12h ago

>“Oh he won’t go through with it.”

The funny thing is the people who say this will have another excuse already. "Oh it's for the good of the economy", "Oh the economy needs to get worse before it gets better." Repeat forever

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u/gatsby712 12h ago

It’s a cult. 

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u/turningsteel 8h ago

I was peeking around the conservative subreddit and there were several comments like “it’s getting hard to justify his antics” or “I wish he would just stick to blah blah”. Like they’re so close to realizing he’s a moron but nothing seems to make it click fully. It’s wild.

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u/gatsby712 8h ago

My conspiracy theory is that establishment Republicans will let Trump wreck his popularity so that they can throw him under the bus without worrying about losing their primary. They’ll 25th him for Vance and then let the most unpopular parts of Project 2025 be tied to Trump. They get what they want from Project 2025, they rob the American people, and they get a scapegoat. Trump is so popular with republicans primary voters that only GOP politicians on the way out can vote against him on the tariff for example. 

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u/owala_owl11 Florida 7h ago

My friend told me she likes him because she thinks “at least he will get things done and fight for America”. Well he definitely got something done.

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u/gatsby712 7h ago

That’s just code for be a racist. 

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u/relevantelephant00 10h ago

They usually follow it up with a South Park enlightened centrist-style reply of "well all politicians lie".

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u/Morbu 2h ago

Yeah, that's the shit that pisses me off. If we're not supposed to take him seriously when he talks about annexing other countries or when he talks about imposing tariffs on the rest of the world, then what the fuck are we supposed to take him seriously on?

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u/AccomplishedKnee4481 2h ago

We all voted for him and he's been saying the entire campaign that he will institute tariffs. He said it's his favorite word. I have no idea who you've been talking to.

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u/Roll-Bounce-Skate 14h ago

You really can't trust any politician I've learned