r/politics The Netherlands 1d ago

Soft Paywall Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-breaks-silence-on-trumps-unimaginable-presidency/
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u/atriaventrica 1d ago edited 1d ago

I saw someone say that this was Obama saying he wasn't treated fairly. That's not the point. The point he's making is that what's happening is unconscionable, illegal and unconstitutional no matter who does it. Forcing the right wing to consider how they would feel if Obama had done what is happening is an attempt to force them to reconcile what is actually happening with their limitless support for Trump.

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u/ludba2002 1d ago

They literally can't comprehend the idea that Obama is concerned about the nation as a whole... because they frame every political event as "what's in it for me personally?"

Ayn Rand's ideology has had an enormous negative impact on our country.

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u/Randinator9 Ohio 1d ago

Selfishness cannot comprehend Selflessness

Evil cannot comprehend Good

Death cannot comprehend Life

Darkness doesn't know Light

I could keep going, but I'm sure you get it. Pisses me off that this is literally what Jesus taught and Conservatives (who claim to be Christian) have the most Anti-Christian ideology I've ever seen. Even most Muslims are kinder than these ghouls, and I completely dislike Islam.

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u/rotundanimal 1d ago

Gross. “Even most Muslims are kinder” is like saying “you’re smart for a girl.” Some of the kindest, most generous people I know are Muslims.

u/mr_fantastical 7h ago

Yeah that bit threw me. What a nice start to the message with some sprinkled in racism at the end there.

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u/Dry-Tough-3099 1d ago

Jesus taught us to put your faith in government? Must have missed that part.

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u/construktz Oregon 1d ago

Man... You must be a gold medalist in mental gymnastics to twist what he said into that.

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u/toderdj1337 1d ago

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u/Dry-Tough-3099 1d ago

I thought the idea was that Obama cared for the nation, and so do liberals, but conservatives only want what's best for themselves. Jesus taught us to care for the needy. Liberals do that by voting for more government programs, while conservatives do that by direct charitable giving, and helping people in their community. What did you get out of it?

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u/ludba2002 1d ago

John the Baptist called the Sadducees a "brood of vipers". Can't imagine what horrible names he'd have for MAGA folks.

Maimonides said the Sadducees rejected "the Oral Torah as an excuse to interpret the Written Torah in a lenient, personally convenient manner." Interpretation that preserves your selfish ego is your entire game.

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u/TigreWulph 1d ago

Uh yeah... kinda... Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.

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u/davisboy121 Washington 23h ago

That….was absolutely not Jesus teaching people to put their faith in the government, it was a critique of Caesar. 

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u/TigreWulph 22h ago

It was his response when asked if it was legal to pay taxes to Ceasar, your interpretation is... interesting.

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u/ameriCANCERvative 1d ago edited 1d ago

Massively. So much of this traces back to Ayn Rand.

I used some of my TSLA put wins to buy an award for you. That award is funded by Elon musk.

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u/Rambo_One2 1d ago

Once again, every accusation is an admission. Cause you're exactly right: They think every politician is only in politics for personal gain because that's what they're used to from their own ranks. And sure, lots of people are in positions of power to gain some sort of personal gain, but I don't think it's incomprehensible to think that "A better future for future generations" counts as a form of personal gain. But yeah, they expect it to be money because that's what they and their own would do.