r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 1d ago

Soft Paywall Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-breaks-silence-on-trumps-unimaginable-presidency/
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u/innosins Kentucky 1d ago

He's fucking right. They'd be blowing the damn roof off the place if anyone else was pulling this bullshit.

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u/dIO__OIb 1d ago edited 18h ago

where is the republican congress? they need to be held accountable. this is not just trump, the GOP handed over their power and are silent. The republican party just passed the biggest tax increase in decades and tanked our 401ks. they need to go down. //edit: me bad mobile type

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u/AlphaGoldblum 1d ago

The old Republican guard is dead and gone. Now it's either full loyalty to MAGA or leaving the party altogether.

Some Republicans are grumbling about tariffs, but they know actually doing anything about it will cause the party and Trump to turn on them like sharks smelling blood in the water.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 1d ago

Sounds like it's a good time for them to switch parties, and switch how they vote.

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u/JohnStamosAsABear 1d ago

Unfortunately that requires a spine and morals other than clinging to power. 

This is fascism at work. They’re afraid of being stuck in the out-group.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 1d ago

If they had more foresight, they would know they will become part of the out-group eventually. Just look at the end of Nazi Germany.

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u/livsjollyranchers 1d ago

No need to look at the end. Look at the very beginning.

Hitler and the Nationalists (the "old-school" conservatives of their day) formed a coalition government in the early 30s. Before long, Hitler seized full power and the Nationalists were scrambling for their life.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 1d ago

And the Reichstag fire after the politicians voted to give up their power.

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u/No_Fail_1325 20h ago

Kristallnacht

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u/DiscotopiaACNH 1d ago

The Nazi's defeat was not inevitable. It took countless lives and global cooperation to get rid of Hitler. There is zero guarantee that this maniac and his goons will ever be defeated before they destroy the planet.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 1d ago

Their defeat was because of their own policies and actions which weren't rational to win the war. Obviously the world took them down as well. They could have surrendered at some point too, but Hitler wouldn't consider it.

Fascism isn't a particularly stable government type historically. Franco's Spain lasted what, 40 years? And the more infamous Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy combined didn't last 40 years.

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u/MageBayaz 3h ago

It's true that fascist governments can easily collapse once the leader dies.

That said, all of these countries are much smaller and in a much less geographically advantageous position than the US.

Democracies ultimately won because the US happened to be a democracy.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 3h ago

Some of that advantage disappears if Canada and Mexico aren't allies. And overall, it seems frequently true that Fascist governments don't understand or use their advantages well. If you look at the map of Europe in 1941, Germany seems extremely strong, but 3 years later, they're retreating everywhere.

Our geographic advantage could easily turn into a disadvantage depending on how things play out.