r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 1d ago

Soft Paywall Obama Breaks Silence on Trump’s ‘Unimaginable’ Presidency - “Imagine if I had done any of this,” the former two-term president said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obama-breaks-silence-on-trumps-unimaginable-presidency/
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u/GoodIdea321 America 1d ago

Sounds like it's a good time for them to switch parties, and switch how they vote.

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u/JohnStamosAsABear 1d ago

Unfortunately that requires a spine and morals other than clinging to power. 

This is fascism at work. They’re afraid of being stuck in the out-group.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 1d ago

If they had more foresight, they would know they will become part of the out-group eventually. Just look at the end of Nazi Germany.

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u/DiscotopiaACNH 1d ago

The Nazi's defeat was not inevitable. It took countless lives and global cooperation to get rid of Hitler. There is zero guarantee that this maniac and his goons will ever be defeated before they destroy the planet.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 1d ago

Their defeat was because of their own policies and actions which weren't rational to win the war. Obviously the world took them down as well. They could have surrendered at some point too, but Hitler wouldn't consider it.

Fascism isn't a particularly stable government type historically. Franco's Spain lasted what, 40 years? And the more infamous Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy combined didn't last 40 years.

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u/MageBayaz 4h ago

It's true that fascist governments can easily collapse once the leader dies.

That said, all of these countries are much smaller and in a much less geographically advantageous position than the US.

Democracies ultimately won because the US happened to be a democracy.

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u/GoodIdea321 America 3h ago

Some of that advantage disappears if Canada and Mexico aren't allies. And overall, it seems frequently true that Fascist governments don't understand or use their advantages well. If you look at the map of Europe in 1941, Germany seems extremely strong, but 3 years later, they're retreating everywhere.

Our geographic advantage could easily turn into a disadvantage depending on how things play out.