Twin study suggests rationality and intelligence share the same genetic roots - the study suggests that being irrational, or making illogical choices, might simply be another way of measuring lower intelligence.

[u/mvea]

https://www.psypost.org/twin-study-suggests-rationality-and-intelligence-share-the-same-genetic-roots/

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People like to pretend we are the one animal not behaviorally influenced by our genetics but we are, we know behavior traits can be selected for in various species the problem is a matter of a choice and we as a people need to choose not to engage in legally enforced Eugenics in people while still acknowledging reality that we don't know what we don't know and allowing research to proceed so we can perhaps still find treatments for problematic behaviors that may have a genetic or epigenetic component.

[u/Foolishium → u/[deleted]]

Ok, how we categorize "Problematic" behavior? Is "Autism" problematic behavior? Is "Schizoid" a problematic behavior? Is "Narcissicsm" a problematic behavior?

To even entertain behavioral genetic engineering to cure "problematic" behavior is more problematic than those "problematic" behavior themselves.

[u/RudeHero → u/Foolishium]

I feel like "problematic" might be the wrong word. I might suggest "distressing" instead.

Some conditions in the DSM (I'm sorry, I won't look up examples, but I know for sure it is applied to addictions) say "in order to have this condition, patient must have X of Y symptoms/behaviors from this list... and it makes them unhappy and/or interferes with their life. Distressing

So some rubric like that

[u/Nymanator → u/RudeHero]

I don't think that's sufficient, given that a symptom of dementia (for example) is anosognosia, the inability to recognize when you're ill and something is wrong (including lacking insight into one's own pathogical mental state or capacity despite obvious evidence - "Grandpa, we found you on the road 10 miles from home in a blizzard, and you were wearing nothing but your pyjamas" "So what? I was just going for a walk! You're making a big deal out of nothing!")

[u/RudeHero → u/Nymanator]

I don't think that's sufficient, given that a symptom of dementia (for example) is anosognosia

One, I would say that dementia interferes with someone's life. I also haven't yet personally met someone with advanced dementia that was happy about it

Two, we do have a process for stuff like psychosis and dementia. The burden of proof is VERY HIGH to trap/commit/treat someone against their will. Incredibly high. As it should be. Like, it needs to be really, really bad. But we do have a process for that and I don't think it should be changed