r/science Professor | Medicine 20d ago

Neuroscience Twin study suggests rationality and intelligence share the same genetic roots - the study suggests that being irrational, or making illogical choices, might simply be another way of measuring lower intelligence.

https://www.psypost.org/twin-study-suggests-rationality-and-intelligence-share-the-same-genetic-roots/
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u/LordFondleJoy 20d ago

So instead of saying "He's an idiot" you could say "He's irrational" and it would basically indicate the same issue? Good to know.

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u/Peregrine_x 19d ago

i fear this could just lead to people taking more and more insufferable stances in an attempt to upset people who are political opposites simply to pull this study out as a deus ex machina to denounce their stances on issues.

which will lead to people further trying to disconnect themselves emotionally from topics to appear more rational and therefore intelligent, instead of just doing some research and becoming more intelligent.

kinda like how conservative grifters already use shock topics to derail someone in a conversation and then play the "nah man i dont even care, im so laid back" card. saying that, i guess they are doing this already, but having them use this study as some sort of weird proof, even though that's not what its actually saying, is going to be annoying going forward.

i mean entering a debate just to harass someone so you can claim they are inherently wrong isn't going to fool anybody who knows that verbally attacking someone doesn't make your argument stronger, your argument actually has to stand on its own, but a lot of people in today's day and age unfortunately view a lot of debates like rap battles.

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u/Buggabee 19d ago

Probably which is dumb because emotion and logic are not mutually exclusive. Like you could say there are lizard people walking around because you ate a donut this morning without any emotion behind it because it doesn't matter to you. And I could say I think all girls deserve an education because it's been proven that more educated mothers make for a healthier society but have a lot of passion behind it because I had a personal experience. It doesn't make the studies less accurate.

I just hate that mindset.

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u/DocFail 19d ago

Then we have to get in to the speed of processing topic. Today’s academics use speed duels as a measure of one another.

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u/Buggabee 19d ago

I get that in certain situations you have a limited time to talk so it can be helpful to get your point across quickly but that would lean more towards skills of persuasion than logic. It's quick to say "God did it" it's complicated to explain evolution. Doesn't sound like a good thing for academics to encourage.

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u/digbybare 18d ago

 instead of just doing some research and becoming more intelligent.

Knowledge is not intelligence. This is something people seem to fundamentally not understand. People incorrectly equate knowing a lot of stuff with intelligence, but intelligence is really about aptitude and creativity.