r/slaythespire • u/JapaneseExport Ascension 20 • Jul 15 '24

META Top Player A20H Silent Tier List

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Here's another tier list in the pursuit of making some updated, broad advice for A20H players. I had some help from discord with this too, so if you offered some opinions, thanks, you know who you are.

Silent is weird in that a lot of these cards drastically go up or down when you have other combo pieces in your deck already, making generic rankings very difficult. I aimed to give a list that would say how broadly useful something is on average, but as always with tier lists, context is the most important thing in this game.

In general, i would say that silent has overall one of the strongest card pools, most of her cards are relevant and pickable (which is why her pbox is so strong, on top of 2+ extra starters), so dont look too hard into the names of each tier and try to compare them with the other tier lists.

IE: storm of steel can be quite good with tough bandages, grand finale can be the most important card in your deck etc

I'll be happy to answer any comments below, but if you want to discuss more in depth feel free to come to my stream, ill be going live to play some rotating once this is posted

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u/thegeekdom Eternal One + Heartbreaker Jul 15 '24

Maybe I’m just a hater, but I feel like distraction should be in a tier of its own at the bottom. I literally never pick that card. It’s just fucking bad. So so so bad. Without an upgrade it literally feels like a waste 99% of the time. For one, Silent has a bunch of 0 cost skills so it might just waste energy. Secondly, it can give you reflex or tactician which you might not be able to even play. Silent also has a huge pool of skills and many are situational so it often feels like a whiff. I just fail to see how this card is ever the pick. Ever. It honestly, might be worse than Clash on Ironclad. Probably the worst card in the game.

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u/JapaneseExport Ascension 20 Jul 15 '24

sometimes you have absolutely no way to win the run, and you click distraction because it can bail you out (random is good in this game, white noise is a very similar idea)

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PIZZAPIC Eternal One + Heartbreaker Jul 15 '24

well whatever you get with white noise goes away after you play it, unless its hello world i guess, then its always there to haunt you... but still a better ratio than how much useless stuff you can get from distraction

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u/MeathirBoy Ascension 20 Jul 15 '24

And is at minimum an Uncommon that provides scaling of some kind

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u/GoodTimesOnlines Eternal One + Ascended Jul 15 '24

Idk if I’d compare it to White Noise…. Similar idea of course but so many defect decks which are power heavy end up just being more powers the better, esp with synergy with Storm Lightning. I feel like the only powers I’m disappointed in is Hello World or situationally a Creative AI. That’s still way less likely to disappoint than all the disappointing possibilities from distraction. Same w infernal blade on IC

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u/HeorgeGarris024 Ascension 9 Jul 15 '24

hello world is a pretty good power to add

a CAI that costs 1 or 0 energy is also pretty good?

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u/GoodTimesOnlines Eternal One + Ascended Jul 15 '24

Idk I think hello world is typically pretty awful, I’ve never enjoyed having it and it usually just clutters my deck. Getting CAI can definitely be fun and it’s usually not a bad thing, it’s just that sometimes it’s not that good either. I mostly meant situationally like getting a CAI near the end of combat

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u/HeorgeGarris024 Ascension 9 Jul 15 '24

This is a poor evaluation of hello world, it's quite good pretty often. 6 card hands, with the 6th card being one you don't carry between fights and it's a defect common? Hell yeah brother

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u/GoodTimesOnlines Eternal One + Ascended Jul 16 '24

Yeah interesting after reading some explanation from OPs defect tier list I can buy the reasoning. It still feels clunky to me but I’ll give it a shot more often

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u/bolacha_de_polvilho Ascension 20 Jul 16 '24

Distraction is weird. Its such a high variance card that it's really hard to justify its pick. After all what role does it fill in your deck? You dont even know if it blocks, deals damage or spawns a literally unplayable card like reflex. So I very rarely intentionally click on it in card rewards.

However, somewhat paradoxically, most times I get it from a transform it ends being surprisingly decent. Although you can definitely get some worthless crap, on average Silent's skills are pretty good, and the high end of the card's variance is very powerful.

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u/GenxDarchi Jul 15 '24

Nah, a distraction plus can sometimes be able to save some health or even provide a win con. Heel hook is definitely worse than Distraction in most situations. Base distraction is pretty bad though. They both deserve a spot down there.