r/slaythespire • u/Dabod12900 Eternal One + Heartbreaker • Feb 12 '25

META Silent Card Tier List... with a Twist!

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u/TheMausoleumOfHope Ascension 20 Feb 12 '25

So you’re conditionalizing the card quality axis to only include instances where you actually pick the card?

Really odd way to do it

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u/Dabod12900 Eternal One + Heartbreaker Feb 12 '25

Why not? Is this not a more accurate description of what actually happens?

Clearly this list is heavily dependent on my playstyle - but it embraces that fact and makes it explicit instead of keeping it implicit.

The ranking of Grand Finale says: "I don't pick this Card often, but when I do, it performs in a big way."

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u/Fedeppo2 Feb 12 '25

Yeah this is the best way to do this imo. I like this format

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u/allbirdssongs Feb 13 '25

which means hard to get synergy but when you get it is great, yeah its a good format, many tier lists have weirs sections and long ass descriptions, great card but only if this and that happens, this just simplifies th eprocess, great job.

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u/TheMausoleumOfHope Ascension 20 Feb 12 '25

Any methodology that puts Grand Finale that close to Catalyst, Accuracy, and Tactician is an odd methodology in my opinion.

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u/Romain672 Ascension 20 Feb 12 '25

Just read that normal tier list by putting an S tier top right, and the more you goes down and left, the more you reduces that rating. And so that Grand Finale will be in the same diagonal than Cloak and Dagger and at C tier. But the two dimensions add an extra very useful information.

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u/Dabod12900 Eternal One + Heartbreaker Feb 12 '25

Are those not all similar Cards?

They are payoff for certain deck types, unable to work without the right support.

What don't you like about it? Is the pick rate for it too high?

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u/TheMausoleumOfHope Ascension 20 Feb 12 '25

Yes I think the pick rates for those cards are wildly different

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u/Dinosaurs-Cant-win Feb 13 '25

This is not an odd way at all for a game like slay the spire. Everything is conditional and this gives you more information than a normal tier list.

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u/Hermononucleosis Feb 14 '25

Not really. One axis measures how often a card should be picked, the other measures how much impact it brings when picked. Makes perfect sense. If the quality axis wasn't only for situations where the card is picked, you have the same problem as in normal tier lists where you don't know if a card is low because it's situational or because it's overall underwhelming