r/stocks • u/SwissCowOnMoon • 1d ago
We are worth more than Trump
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u/Wyldefire6 1d ago
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u/counterstrikePr0 1d ago
A blip in the stock market and you're gonna go out marching with pitch forks? Good Lord
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u/MurkTwain 1d ago
Couldn’t sleep last night either, dark times. My port had been a bloodbath since Trump it’s actually crazy how much money lost in the US he is directly responsible for, trillions of dollars
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u/B0bZomb1e 1d ago
Friendly reminder that there is supposed to be protests all over the country tomorrow/later today, April 5th.
Check out the r/50501 reddit for city specific info if interested
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u/treetimes 1d ago
What are you cheering for??? You should be embarrassed
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u/counterstrikePr0 23h ago
Not this that's for sure yea man I'm real embarrassed I'm not going to go be a pos at a useless shitty protest and contribute nothing back to my community
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u/skilliard7 1d ago
Honestly you need to stop stressing out so much about markets, and adjust your portfolio so you don't lose sleep over it. Stop speculating in penny stocks. Have a more diversified portfolio.
A well diversified portfolio of US stocks, international stocks, REITs, gold, and bonds is only down about 2% this year.
Obsession over money is not healthy. Penny stocks are insanely risky and there's a good chance you would've lost money regardless of who was president.
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u/asraniel 1d ago
yeah at this point people should not worry about the stock market, but their jobs and prices going up so that they cant pay for anything. i feel like the stock market is the smallest issue, just the first to come
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u/Low_Combination2829 1d ago
I couldn’t enjoy the circus last night with my family. Fing wetarded Trump
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u/Round_Rooms 1d ago
Wouldn't worry too much, once a democrat gets in they will fix everything as they always have, just sell before the red hats come back and fuck it all up as has been since the eighties.
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u/Thatdogonyourlawn 23h ago
Many countries are actively forming new trading alliances. Why would they flip back to the US when we have MAGA voters electing unreliable morons?
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u/Bloodcloud079 23h ago
You think Trump is ginna relinquish power? Because he was so gracious last time…
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u/Round_Rooms 21h ago
I don't think he will even be alive by the end of his term, he's a dinosaur and the dementia has set in.
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u/Educational-Wing1480 23h ago
The s and p is up over 100% in 5 years. There isn’t a crash. Yet.
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u/flatsun 22h ago
If you invested 5 or more years ago.
The difficulty is that what if you invested 1 year ago and all the gains are gone? What if in the next day your 5 years gain is gone and you started at no gains just the initial capital. And your at risk of negative territory now. What then?
Now I get the yet part.
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u/Educational-Wing1480 10h ago
Nothing. I’d still have my initial capital plus earned dividends. The market can’t continue on the run it’s been on. It either has to go down and return or stay stagnant for a couple of years.
Trump bases his presidency on how well the market performs. It can’t go up more from where it’s out without creating a big wealth gap. He is intentionally crashing the market early in his presidency so he can blame prior administration, then as it returns, he will take credit
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u/BabaThoughts 23h ago
If you do not need the money in the next few years, don’t sell. Every downturn in history was always the best opportunity to buy as the market eventually returns to even bigger highs.
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u/Consistent_Panda5891 1d ago
Simply take half in and short tesla. You will recover your money when it tanks to 140$ by EoY
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u/WolverineDull8420 1d ago
Honestly, shorting can be a very dangerous game, but you do what you think is best with your own life and money. Personally, I'm going to wait for things to go down further as I expect they will, and then I'll be buying stocks that were previously out of my reach to expand my portfolio in the sectors that I've already got investmens in and I intend on reaching into sectors of the market that I've been holding off on until I got an idea what all sectors will be impacted by these tariffs.
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u/Consistent_Panda5891 1d ago
A 200+PE company targeted by all MMs around the globe? With sinking sales everywhere except China where it is tariffed now? It is not dangerous. Is just the inverse of classic investing. You "sell" a stock at current price(240) and can buy later(200, 140... making profit). Do you think it will have more value than now in short term? No. Then short it!
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u/WolverineDull8420 1d ago
And if you're wrong, the outcome can be far worse than buying a stock that tanks as you can wind up on the line for far more than you intended. Again, you do you, and I hope it works out for you, but personally, I strongly advise against short selling stocks unless you have plenty of capital to cover any mishaps that occur. Tesla may be worth short selling in the short term, but shorts, in general, are a very risky game during periods of market volatility. Especially when you factor in the nature of the person leading the nation right now.
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u/Consistent_Panda5891 1d ago
I am not wrong. I did not short tesla till yesterday. And I am on 12x leverage that yes is risky. So far is working well but you have risk of a suddenly spike and loosing it much everything. In a bear market more people are doing short selling than classic selling. If it simply goes up you wait it go lower because it will. After all if stocks "only go up" is because you want to sell it higher than you bought. What happens when everyone is shorting? You want to buy it lower than you bought so it keeps dropping
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u/WolverineDull8420 1d ago
I understand the principles at play when it comes to classic investment and shorts and as a general rule shorts come with an exponentially higher risk as you stand to gain significantly more but risk winding up on the hook for way more then the cost of the stock if it climbs. Right now, large investment groups are shorting a lot of stocks and selling a lot of shares of stocks they had investments in to hedge their holdings against the economic turbulence that comes with trade wars like what Trump appears to be starting. With that being said, these same groups tend to have large impacts on the market with their actions, and with how unpredictable this administration is, it's not outside the realm of possibility that they could do something that would change the current choices of the investment groups within the next month let alone 6 months, and leave a lot of average Joe's with shorts on the hook for more then they can afford. I'm not telling you not to do it but simply that it's a risky game as you clearly already know and that you should always make sure you have the assets or capital to cover a worst case scenario so you don't wind up on the hook for more then you can afford to lose. I'm not telling you that your wrong to short tesla stock, I'm simply advising you to be careful because even Maga doesn't know what trump is planning or what changes he will cause and I'd hate to see a repeat of the 1920s due to people over extending themselves because the markets are bearish and things look bleak due to the down turn.
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u/TheProfessional9 1d ago
Spy PE is now 21.85 and has a median value of 18. No recession yet and earnings can go down. We may be at the bottom but that seems iffy to me.
Personally, as we got more and more overstretched in the market, I moved individual names out and bought voo. I did other things last week to protect, but after 2022 I learned that holding high beta companies during a downturn is hell. Having indexes for pullbacks is substantially easier to stomach. And if I thought we were at the bottom here, I could sell the index down 15% and get companies down 40% for a ride back up
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u/Plane-Salamander2580 1d ago
While I hate Trump, you're also an idiot for losing that money if you needed it for your retirement, as this kind of pullback can happen in any sort of bear market, whatever the reasoning Also, this post is more politics than stocks.
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u/darts2 1d ago
You lost your money gambling now you want a revolution? Nice one bro
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u/Affectionate_Tap1718 1d ago
Last time I checked (just now) this is regarding the world economy not some stupid little crypto. The world economy shouldn’t be regarded as ‘gambling’…. bro.
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