Now, I went on the Internet and researched ostriches. Firstly, ostriches can run up to 70 miles an hour. So catching one, even a sick one, is a super tall order.
Asperger's is just regular old high functioning autism and no matter how much money and admiration Trump pays him, he's STILL a thief!!! IF he was so damn smart he wouldn't be our worst threat, he'd be working on something beneficial to mankind to save the environment, reduce pollution for real and take care of mankind, help those are alive right now and struggling their hardest.
Added: Don't cry about his IQ. We have PLENTY of regular folks with high IQs who CARE about their fellow Americans and would NEVER do what he's done/ doing!!!!!!!
It was obvious to anyone not already brainwashed but Elon has no plausible deniability since he's made a "my heart goes out to you" gesture in the past.
it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.
And if a dog makes a sound that sounds like a quack, then it is definitely a duck, and not a dog at all. No room for debate or consideration. I heard it, plain as day. I can't mishear things.
If Musk had merely done the salute, you could maybe chalk it up to him just being a bit weird and not realising the majority of the world would see it as a Nazi Salute - but when he follows it up by giving a speech in Germany saying "You shouldn't be ashamed of your past", responds to allegations by saying "Getting called a Nazi is so old, its boring", and posts photos of himself at Auschwitz - kind of impossible not to see him as a Nazi.
Also, Trump sure doesn’t seem to mind having a man that is openly a Nazi in his administration. What would you call an administration that openly welcomes members that are nazis?
Yes. It’s just so wild. If it wasn’t a Nazi salute, he still knows that white supremicists are relishing the moment, and isn’t that a reason enough to distance himself from them and deny it was one?
Which "Nazis" and their parties? You mean any person or party which is slightly right of centre? And... Oh yeah Musk the Nazi who encouraged HB1 visas (which promote non-white immigration) and assisted Israel via his starlink? If he's a Nazi, he's doing a terrible job at showing it
I don’t get you lot - why not be proud of who you are and who you support? You don’t need to pretend you’re something you’re not pal.
Part of me thinks the fact you do all these mental gymnastics and weird excuses to cover for the nazis you love and admire, shows you know it’s v bad and v wrong…but if that’s what you’re into, just own it like Musk is doing.
I imagine he’d be pretty pissed off at anyone for trying to dilute his nazi-ness
His intense support for AfD in Germany. The party that has been in legal trouble regularly for using Nazi iconography and language. The Anti-Defamation League has a lot to day about them.
So from where I sit, he's showing quite a lot of support for Nazi sympathizers.
He's retweeted neo Nazi content on Xitter, endorsed the extreme right neo Nazi AfD party in Germany, given the full Sieg Heil salute and then when criticized responded with a litany of offensive Nazi and Holocaust jokes.
The dust hadn't even settled from his nazi salute extravaganza before he gave his nazi-apologist speech at the AfD. American media still flummoxed as to his motivations.
People fixating on “could it possibly have been something other than a Nazi salute” as if there aren’t numerous other reasons to call him a Nazi already. Like how he wrote an op ed praising the AfD
So here's the thing, I was in that camp when it first happened. What swayed me over the next few days was the fact that rather than apologizing for an unfortunate gesture, he acted proud about it and went on to associate with known extreme alt-right organizations. At that point, there's really no defense for it.
He's worse than a Nazi. At least the Nazis still lifted a whole group of people up above everyone else. Musk doesn't even do that, he only looks out for Number One.
(Just to make sure I'm not misunderstood, this is not me saying Nazis glorifying the Aryan race was good, it's me saying that Musk somehow managed to be even worse than that.)
You are completely delusional if you think musk is worse than the actual nazis of adolf, what the fuck am i even reading, they killed 6,000,000 people from across europe and launched rockets into england indescriminantly for 6 years and musk is worse because he fumbled a salute and told a german right wing party not to feel guilty about past atrocities. Are you joking?
Im not even going to mention the things that musk has invested in, because thats not important, what is important is that you learn the sheer weight of actual nazi history and how offensive it is to water that down just so you can defame someone
if musk didn't do a nazi salute and doesn't want to be accused of being a nazi, he could literally just turn on a livestream tomorrow proclaiming that he's against any and all forms of nazism and its adherents, and then banning nazi content from his site and disassociate with nazis that he's been supporting for months.
he's not going to do any of that, ergo he's a nazi
You know what if Musk came out the next day and apologized and said he fucked up and didn’t mean for his salute to look the way it did, I’d have accepted it. But the fact is we’ve got all these people bending over backwards to justify why what he did was okay and he’s still keeping his mouth shut. His silence speaks volumes.
Then he would say, "I'm appalled that people think I did a nazi salute. I want nothing to do with them. The Holocaust was real and one of the worst atrocities in modern history."
Done, that's what a normal, non-nazi would say when wrongfully accused of doing a nazi salute.
All he had to fucking do was say, "oops, that was unintentional." And while that wouldn't be enough for some, it would generally have put it to rest as a little faux pas.
His defenders are nothing but bots and utter sycophants.
That's the thing. We don't want Elon to contextually, maybe, if a 'commercial llm' read it that way (talk about implying your bias), seem to suggest, that he didn't mean to give a Nazi salute. We want him to say he didn't make a Nazi salute, that he messed up and made an accidental hand gesture that resembles a Nazi salute. But he hasn't, because that would detract from the pro-Nazi stances he has presented elsewhere.
And if you can't understand that, then not only are you 'implying your bias', but fundamentally don't understand the issues at hand. Fuck Nazis.
Then you're just being willingly ignorant about his lack of censorship and reposting of neo-nazi posts on his personal social media platform as well as his defense of the far-right AfD party (read: neo-nazis) in Germany. It's almost remarkable how you're cherry-picking your defense of Musk.
And you're not talking about the general consensus on Reddit. You're talking to me. Who has made several points that you're fundamentally unable to argue against. Musk has not denied his salute has a Nazi salute, Musk has made pro-Nazi statements, and yet here you are babbling about how his tweet could be contextually read by a commercial AI as a denial. Please.
Uh, yeah. You don't go around doing the Nazi salute if you're not also about all the rest of their shit. No one is Nazi saluting for shits and giggles, they're doing it to convey that they really like Nazi shit.
Fascist, call them fascists. Calling them Nazis will just allow them to control the conversation about how they can't be Nazis since they're not mass murdering the Jewish community. Idiots will then be convinced that they're not Nazis. They however can't argue against not being fascists.
The target of conversation is young people that may fall into fascist propaganda. Not allowing the fascists to hide behind their objectivist rhetoric and alternative fact reasonings is what's important. Kids don't yet know how to connect the dots, they need guidance.
You know what Nazis did immediately after seizing control in the 1930s? They started crying “censorship” any time they were criticized in order to systematically silence anyone who opposed them. That’s where we currently are.
Yeah, whether or not he did the salute barely even matters anymore. His actions speak loud enough even if you completely ignore the obvious Nazi salute. I see no reason to engage with people defending the gesture anymore because in the grand scheme of things, it's one of the least worrying things he and Trump have done.
And in one fell swoop, koensch57 completely insulted the memories of all the victims of the Holocaust by recklessly accusing someone of being a Nazi because he took away someone's blue checkmark on twitter.
Standard crypto-fascism. Think of 4Chan's /pol and how swiftly things moved from, "We're nazis but only IRONICALLY to trigger the normies, trololo!" to simply just being out and proud nazis.
Everyone who is a white nationalist scumbag is going to see what Elon did and understand what's going on, and contribute to the gaslighting of everyone else. You average person is too afraid to confront the idea that their society is shifting into something straight out of a nightmare, so they are willing to accept that it couldn't have possibly been what their lying eyes told them they saw. The "liberal" media helps keep them all tucked in and cozy in the bed that's on fire by knowingly or unknowingly following along with the crypto-fascist gameplan. They "both sides" the issue, they call it a "straight arm gesture", they boost the noise to signal ratio and let it become a matter of debate.
The goal is to keep everyone confused until it's too late. Until everyone is doing "straight arm gestures" unironically and you are the odd one out if you don't.
I sit in the camp where I don't think Musk intentionally did a nazi salute, but is just a spazz. That said, I hate him for being fascist by somehow gaining sweeping powers over our government agencies, a position that wasn't voted on by us or our representatives.
Exactly this!!! He was acting like a nazi before the salute. We don't have to pretend like this is some deviation from his ordinary pattern of behavior. He keeps showing up at AfD rallies and encouraging them to "embrace their history". It isn't subtle.
Who remembers the time he agreed with a Neo-Nazi on his platform and then gave a Nazi salute, and then spoke at the German far right AfD conference, but I'm supposes to give the him and the salute the benefit of the doubt.
And what do we do with Nazis,...I'll tell ya what!!! We fuck em with a bazooka and wait till they cum with the common sense they've been missin! Fuck Nazis
Apparently he is so mad that Wikipedia posts that pic, he and Heritage Foundation are trying to figure out how to hack Wikipedia to dox whoever keeps posting it! Ha ha ha
LOSERS!
Jimmy Wales: "I think Elon is unhappy that Wikipedia is not for sale"
Musk did the salute so when he did his speech at a public AFD rally the week after they would suck his dick and generate more momentum for an open Nazi party who is now the second largest party in Germany thanks to the funding of U.S businesses just like they did with the third Reich.
Elon is just the U.S's puppet, it's bigger than these two little men.
Yeah! What does he even do after all? Make a rocket to get humans to Mars? So stupid. Reddit is by far doing more for humanity than his stupid SpaceX and Tesla inventions. Reddit brings joy to the masses. Who’s with me!?
He got it removed for a day. He still refuse to believe that musk isn't cheating. Asmon took it as a joke.
I haven't followed the saga too closely to be honest though, but what you are comparing is a spat between people. I see comments trashing him on twitter all the time. It's about who you follow.
Yeah but asmon took it as a (poor) joke and he got it back the next day. I don't think this is as serious of a conflict as people are making it out to be.
If there is widespread banning for shitting on musk it might put it in a different light.
Asmon didn't apologize or get back in line. He still says musk is cheating. Musk later admitted it. He literally said he pays someone to play his account with him.
Do you think that disagreeing with your comment deserves a lifetime ban? What if I’m the mod and I disagree with you, is disagreeing with me worthy of a lifetime ban?
“Reddit continues to be anti-free speech,” Cedric Hohnstadt said on X. “I just got a lifetime ban from the ‘comics’ subreddit. Yesterday, I posted a humor comic that got over 5,400 upvotes. Then I noticed that there was a pinned post from the moderators saying that comics linked from X could no longer be shared because Musk gave a Nazi salute. I commented saying no he didn’t. The moderator accused me of being pro-Nazi, banned me permanently for life, and deleted all my past posts from the ‘comics’ subreddit. But somehow Elon Musk is the totalitarian?”
That is not matter of opinion, that's a fact. Like the fact that earth is not flat. Or that 2+2 is 4. There is nothing to disagree with. Only thing you can do it denying reality and facts. And yes, I am all for banning people that spread misinformation.
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u/koensch57 Feb 02 '25
Mussk did not only make a Nazi salute, He also acts like a complete nazi