r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/sergeant_byth3way • 2d ago
Discussion R/Conservative debating how Pakman is only interested in chaos right after Trump took a wrecking ball to the global trade.
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u/Cool-Protection-4337 2d ago edited 2d ago
R/conservative is going to be a case study in a few decades. Reddit allows those mods and admins to get away with murder. It is a complete and impenetrable echo chamber. Take these tariffs as examples, it riled many actual conservatives.
Some of those came to reddit and attempted to share their opinions and many got upvoted and people concurring . They even tried to rally their loyalist troops and bots and those got quickly downvoted and their comments collapsed. It wasn't till many hours later and many deletions and bans given was their ability to carry water for trump on this issue restored. I found the whole process utterly fascinating.
They of course, then blamed the whole phenomenon on brigaders , their favorite scape goat. Now granted, there are a few of us political nerds out there with our hands in both pots to get a better feel for what is actual news. But they want us to believe thousands upon thousands of people are just hovering constantly on r/conservative (or any political subreddit) waiting to downvote and then make bogus accounts to down vote more, who in number has that much time and dedication? It simply doesn't happen, it is simply something they came up with to cope and deflect.
The bot excuse I put on reddit fully, bot problems could be addressed just by tweaking how reddit operates. Don't allow one IP to have a hundred plus accounts as an example. Someone using the same password over and over is another good sign of one person making many bot accounts. People are using Reddit to guide their opinions they look at these excuses and simply ignore every bad thing actually going on. The bot problems needs better addressed ASAP.
The ability for any subreddit to misconstrue reality and facts like they do creates another problem. Already they have divided a nation and put us in a cold civil war. Conservatives definitely see Democrats as the literal enemy and their current rhetoric literally matches that tune. They use reddit and sites like reddit to do this. How is that legal for reddit to even do? Allowing murders to plot out a crime is not protected and would get them rightfully in trouble. I have seen what they talk about in these conservative subs , none of that is either and yet they fear absolutely no trouble.
And before we get into the freedom of speech malarkey, a freedom to speech is not a freedom from the consequences of lying or to even lie in the first place.
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u/NonIdentifiableUser 2d ago
/r/conservative is definitely where the bulk of the /r/thedonald users went.
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u/CreativeFraud 2d ago
Seriously! This is insane. To see the decline of R/Conservative in real time was something to witness. Republicans posting about being against the tariffs, getting upvoted, to today. Blaming the left for brigading their subreddit. Now tariffs are good. Fucking weird people.
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u/ruiner8850 2d ago
Republicans need their safe spaces and their concept of the 1st Amendment is that people are free to say whatever they want as long as what they want to say pushes the Republican agenda. If someone wants to yell slurs that's "protected speech," but if they want to say anything bad about Musk or his pet Trump, then that's not allowed.
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u/FckRddt1800 2d ago
Cool. Now do r/politics and it's rabid 10 million members.
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u/sergeant_byth3way 2d ago
I have some socially conservative views and some liberal economic views. The only place that has banned me previously is r/conservatives. What's happening at r/politics is no way near to the insanity of r/conservatives.
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u/FckRddt1800 2d ago
I got permanently banned from r/politics for saying Kamala was a DEI pick for Biden's VP.
r/politics is absolutely 💯 % worse and has over 10 times the members. All of which who are smug, virtuous, shitlibs. Most of them spend their time trolling the one conservative space on reddit.
I personally dislike conservatives and their viewpoints. But rabid, non tolerant leftist make conservatives look like friendly ppl in comparison.
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u/sergeant_byth3way 2d ago
You got banned for stating Kamala was a DEI pick, this does not surprise me one bit. Generally speaking bigotry is looked down upon.
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u/FckRddt1800 2d ago
You claimed to be socially conservative, and yet have a problem with someone saying that hiring ppl based on race is wrong.
Biden claimed he would pick a black woman as VP. Her gender and race was the top qualification. Not her experience.
Socially conservative my ass. You're a leftist, racist, loon.
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u/sergeant_byth3way 2d ago
Absolutely, because your claim is not rooted in reality. Kamala Harris was by every definition a qualified candidate. The simple reason you called her a DEI hire is because she is a woman and happens to be a person of colour.
Calling qualified people DEI hire is bigoted, a decent conservative would know that. You are simply judging her by the colour of her skin.
Socially conservative has nothing do to with calling qualified people DEI hires. I understand you probably cannot comprehend.
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u/FckRddt1800 2d ago edited 2d ago
No. I clearly stated why Kamala was a DEI pick. You just have reading comprehension issues.
If Biden just picked her, there would have been no issue. But no, instead he virtue signaled that he would be picking a black woman as VP, before picking her. Meaning, he looked first at race and gender, before actual merit.
It's racism. It's race baiting. If there was a better qualified candidate that wasn't black, or a woman they were looked past because of race and gender.
You sir are the bigot. And anyone who thinks like you is also a racist bigot.
We are done here. I don't debate racist bigots on the internet.
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u/the_millenial_falcon 2d ago
Lmao the MAGAs on r/conservative love to blame all dissent on brigading.
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u/rjrgjj 2d ago
I’m resisting the urge to wade in there and ask them if they’ll be volunteering to work in the factories and pick the fruit with the young people they’re volunteering because the economy is “overvalued”.
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u/the_millenial_falcon 2d ago
Despite their constant accusations of brigading it is difficult for non conservatives to post there.
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u/Pezdrake 1d ago
They believed tens of thousands of undocumented immigrants registered to vote for Biden. It's pretty on-brand.
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u/slo1111 2d ago
It is pretty funny how they obsess about up and down votes over there
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u/pringlepingel 8h ago
No kidding. One of the comments on that post is a guy basically saying “We should be able to see the upvote/downvote patterns of everyone because the second they step out of line we can say they were never one of us”. Like bro just admit you’re in a cult, it’d be faster than scrying metadata on intent behind upvotes 😂
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u/John_Rustle98 2d ago
Lmao I love the comments “I support Trump but think these tariffs are shortsighted and dumb. We’re not all sheep like the liberals” Acting as if tariffs weren’t something Trump didn’t talk about using while on the campaign trail last year.
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u/sergeant_byth3way 2d ago
They say the same crap about everything trump is doing.
I support trump but think this (insert policy here) is not good.
They also have to preface this with "I support trump but" because you will be banned for showing actual disagreement.
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u/Sob_Rock 2d ago
They talk about TDS like it’s real. Well why wouldn’t I talk about the current sitting President and leader of the Republicans party. Like what else are we supposed to talk about. They had Biden Derangement Syndrome
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u/IdidntrunIdidntrun 1d ago
It's a thought-terminating phrase. They don't want anyone to criticize Dear Leader
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u/Underdog_Ultra 2d ago
I regularly see them saying that even though the tariffs suck, the rest of his policies have been mostly correct. Does anyone know what these policies actually are? Is this more Trumpist cope?
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u/BumBillBee 2d ago
It's "anti-woke" stuff, that's pretty much the only thing they care about, "culture war" nonsense which actually involves, at most, a tiny tiny minority of the population. They're OK with a trashed economy which'll affect millions of people not only in the US but also very likely in the world at large.
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u/pringlepingel 8h ago
They’re a cult. It’s literally so easy to watch in real time, it happens every single time trump does something.
Trump does dumb thing > conservatives voters think it’s dumb > conservative media comes out and says it’s actually not dumb > conservatives no longer think it’s dumb > conservatives regurgitate the new talking points en Massé > and any left over conservative that still thinks it’s dumb is labelled a rino liberal brigadier
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u/ManzanitaSuperHero 2d ago
I checked it yesterday, out of curiosity. Not a peep about global-economy-destroying tariffs. Like it hadn’t even happened. There was nonsense about Nancy Palosi, and some crazy takes on the most random stuff. But this? Crickets. Almost EVERY post is for “flaired users only”. It’s absurd. The “free speech” party, won’t allow anything of the sort. It’s kind of fascinating.
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u/Slipsonic 2d ago
How do you know you're on the wrong side or in a high control group?
The group is strictly policed on what is said and what the concensus is, banning people who disagree and/or demonizing them as part of an all encompassing but vague "enemy".
It's hard for me to understand how more people don't recognize this. I see it as a bright neon red flag immediately. If you need to shut people up to protect your beliefs, maybe the beliefs should be examined.
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u/ManzanitaSuperHero 2d ago
I agree. But anyone who celebrates cruelty like that sub does? There’s already something wrong.
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u/Slipsonic 2d ago
True. At a certain point they know what they do is morally wrong but they like it so they do it anyway and make up anything to "justify" it. Plenty of racists LOVE what's going on. I'm thinking maga will get distilled down over the next few months to people who truly hate everyone.
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u/Space_Sweetness 2d ago edited 2d ago
I made a comment in a post about tariffs. There was just 3 comments in there, all conservatives sceptical about the tariffs. I said ”It’s awfully quiet in here. You can almost hear the silence”
I then received a notification that I was permanently banned since I’m not a conservative and it’s a partisan sub-reddit.
Then I realized this is how they want to win the battle of ideas.
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u/Space_Sweetness 1d ago
I then made a post about it in Destiny’s sub-reddit, but one of their moderators immediately commented that ”we don’t post about bans in other sub-reddits in here”. Is this some kind of Reddit thing? That you can’t talk about bans? I don’t get it
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u/traveltimecar 2d ago
The stuff that goes on there is total clown show. If I say what I wanna say about it I'd probably be banned but holy hell. They are afraid to let anyone that doesn't worship Trump have open speech there.
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u/pringlepingel 8h ago
I know we have posts for flaried users only, should also be able to set that for up and downvotes imo.
Ah a conservative tale as old as time, “Free speech for me, but not for thee.” Hahaha like seriously what little whiny snowflake bitches. “Waaaaaaah my shitty take didn’t get as good of a reception as I was hoping, the system must be rigged against me”
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