r/wallstreetbets 1d ago

Discussion 5 rate cuts 😮

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u/superhappykid 1d ago

Nice, enjoy that 1.25% Rate cut when you buy your $1600 iphone.

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

I’ll save $40k on a mortgage over a $300 markup on a phone every 4 years.

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u/superhappykid 1d ago

You have a $4 mil mortgage?

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

$300k mortgage saves over $80k over 30 years going down 1.25%.

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u/superhappykid 1d ago

You planning to buy 1 car and 1 iphone over 30 years?

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

I don’t own any vehicles made by companies who have tariffs, why start now? So yes, still gonna go with saving many many 10’s of thousands on a mortgage than like $80 a year on a phone.

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u/zakabog 1d ago

I don’t own any vehicles made by companies who have tariffs

Every automaker has tariffs. There isn't a car that's 100% manufactured in the US.

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u/BobAndy004 1d ago

Subaru and Toyota. Maybe Honda

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u/zakabog 1d ago

A lot of parts still come from outside of the US, the US hasn't had the manufacturing infrastructure in place to support automotive manufacturing on a large scale in many decades.

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u/timtexas 1d ago

Hahaha then you don’t own a car or phone then.

There is not a vehicle on the market that is made with 100% parts made in America. And even if there was the machines they use to make said parts “surprise” are from over seas.

So stop your bs. Trying to justify why we are not all screwed

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u/superhappykid 1d ago

Ok dude, tell me how you go when you have no job when the economy slows down.

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

I’m not sure why no one wants a better rate on a mortgage lol. Everyone is too short sighted. Probably not the best to have a long term financial stance on a gambling subreddit.

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u/StarGaurdianBard 1d ago

I’m not sure why no one wants a better rate on a mortgage lol. Everyone is too short sighted

The irony in how contradictory this statement is. It's short sighted to want a rate cut on a mortgage when it comes with inflation skyrocketing. Mortgage rates can be cut in a couple years when the market is fully stabilized and it'll cost you a couple thousand dollars. Inflation on the other hand is permanent and will cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars throughout your life.

For example, your car that you claim is all American isn't. It has parts made outside of the country. It has raw resources from outside the country. There isn't a single car company in the US that gets all of its metal, parts, chips, etc made in the US.

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u/crimepais 1d ago

What are you talking about. Non US parts imported are subject to the Tariff, even when assembled in the US.

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u/Foxintoxx 1d ago

My brother in christ everything has tariffs now except russian imports .

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u/SpezIsABrony 1d ago

Not for all the people who refinanced during covid and haven't bought a new home since.

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u/YoungXanto 1d ago

Yeah, bought in 2018, refid in 2021 for 2.37 on a 30 year.

I am looking forward to lower rates so that I can take out a home equity loan and throw it all in a margin account and gamble on 0dte puts though.

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u/SpezIsABrony 1d ago

Why gamble on 0DTE puts when you can confidently invest with 0DTE puts?

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

If they want to move again, they will want a lower rate than 6.5%

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u/BVoLatte 1d ago

Too bad the cost of materials for new houses is going to skyrocket which in turn is going to increase the price of every home construction. No one is going to be able to afford homes, going to be pushed further into rental economy.

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u/marcus55 1d ago

it won't stay at 1.25% for 30 years lmao. 1.25% is a manufactured rate and is not normal. Post 08 was not the norm

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

That’s not a 1.25% rate, it’s a decrease of 1.25% - so like going from 6.5% to 5.25% saves over $80k.

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u/marcus55 1d ago

Ah understood, yea thats the trap of credit over a long period. Haven't done the calculations but people would be surprised to realise the kinds of money they are paying on interest if you put the minimum deposit down and do the maximum period.

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u/sopunny 1d ago

Unless the principle increases, which will happen because house prices go up

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u/alchemist615 1d ago

That may be true ... But you forgot that all other prices will be going up 9-10%. If you think groceries are expensive now, just wait....

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u/virtual_adam 1d ago

This isn’t Covid. No unlimited unemployment and federal government checks in the mail. No one is going to be fighting to pay $60k on a rav4.

It’s well known by now Covid inflation was powered by the government giving everyone plenty of money to spend. Inflation while people are broke will just mean things rotting on shelves, or companies cutting profit margins (which is why the market is crashing, no more 30% profit growth every quarter, imagine if companies just….broke even)

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u/alchemist615 1d ago

The fed has the power to create whatever money they want. They can also purchase equities indefinitely. They can also Purchase government debt. The government then spends the money on whatever. Both activities inject cash into the economy.

They did it for YEARS after the great recession. Thankfully then, baseline inflation was low. Baseline inflation is higher now and tariffs are inflationary.

JPOW talks this afternoon so we may get a hint at what their plan is...

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

Tariffs probably won’t last forever, hopefully gone this year. But if we can lock into fixed rate loans 1.25% lower, you’d save a lot in the long run.

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u/alchemist615 1d ago

The only net positive would be if the government can refinance the $7-8 trillion at super low rates and then they immediately drop the tariffs. Of course that means the fed will need to purchase huge amounts of government debt....

Perhaps that is their "grand plan". However, I'm not sure that much thought has went into it....

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u/btdawson 1d ago

I’d lock into a 5.25 and buy it down a full percent because fuck it. Never gonna see 4.25 again anyway

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u/Cropitalist 1d ago

At this rate, maybe we will see 4s in the next couple of years.

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u/btdawson 1d ago

I’d much rather lock my 4 on now

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u/adrr 1d ago

Replacing income tax

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u/vollover 1d ago edited 1d ago

You think that everything (not just iphones) getting more expensive is the only consequence here? Less returns and inflation also... Regardless, you have to pay a closing fee when refinancing , so it wouldn't even be the figure you quoted

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u/juber434 1d ago

This would make the housing market go nuts for 6 months with all of these people currently afraid to sell out of their covid rates.

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u/givemethemtendies10 1d ago

Do you honestly think that the savings on your mortgage will out weigh the price inflation of every single one of your expenses? I mean at most you'll be saving a couple hundred bucks a month on your mortgage. But property taxes and insurance will probably go up. Household supplies and food will go up. Not to mention you would most likely have to refinance which comes with costs as well.

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u/Own_Trust_3886 1d ago

lol yea but that $1600 iPhone gonna wreck you so bad. This sub gets dumber and dumber

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u/Sawgambler 1d ago

S22 since 2020 💪

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u/Meat__Head 1d ago

S20 here 🙋‍♂️

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u/Ok-Instruction830 1d ago

Android users smell like corn chips

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u/CarefreeRambler 1d ago

iPhone users sniff people

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